brushhoggin Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 no matter what the lure, has always been the one where you thread it through, then spin the bait or hook 7 or 8 times then thread it through again at the bottom of the twists and back through itself. Sorry don't know what it's called but i'm losing confidence and fish with it. Are all those twists stressin the line too much? I know how to tie a palomar, and even a few others, but it's just embedded into my nervous system that that's what i tie when it's time to tie on a lure. now with braid this doesn't seem like as much of a problem. should the palomar be my new all time QB? Quote
HuntFishAK Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Sounds like, and this is just a guess from what you described, the improved clinch knot. I use the San Diego Jam Knot on everything but braid. Very easy to tie and very reliable. The Palomar gets the nod when tying straight to braid, which is rare for me now due to most of the lakes around here are very clear. Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 2, 2010 Super User Posted August 2, 2010 For the desciption I guess you are talking about the Improved Double Clinch, how good is that knot ? done properly very good, actually it 's the knot I do the most, but a good knot can go wrong if you do it wrongly, not lubed propely and pulling the long end instead of the tag end to tighten will weaken the line in an eyeblink because of the friction generated by rubbibg the line against the line when the wraps slide down to tighten. Quote
brushhoggin Posted August 2, 2010 Author Posted August 2, 2010 For the desciption I guess you are talking about the Improved Double Clinch, how good is that knot ? done properly very good, actually it 's the knot I do the most, but a good knot can go wrong if you do it wrongly, not lubed propely and pulling the long end instead of the tag end to tighten will weaken the line in an eyeblink because of the friction generated by rubbibg the line against the line when the wraps slide down to tighten. when you say the long end you mean my main line right? Quote
brushhoggin Posted August 2, 2010 Author Posted August 2, 2010 i've actually always have used the improved trilene knot, similar to the above clinch but 2 passes through the eye. it has served me well & have been using it since around the later 80's or so. pass it through the eye twice before you start to spin the lure or hook? Quote
HuntFishAK Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 http://www.netknots.com/html/trilene_knot.html Quote
Big Tom Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 should the palomar be my new all time QB? I think so. Its fast, easy, and strong. It is the only knot I use. Quote
Red Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 should the palomar be my new all time QB? I think so. Its fast, easy, and strong. It is the only knot I use. Same here, I know how to tie a couple others, but this is the only one I ever use. Quote
BigGame0892 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I pretty much tie the San Diego Jam for everything but braid. I stick with a Palomar for that. One slight difference is that I pass the line through the hook eye twice when I tie the Jam. Quote
HuntFishAK Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I pretty much tie the San Diego Jam for everything but braid. I stick with a Palomar for that. One slight difference is that I pass the line through the hook eye twice when I tie the Jam. So, kind of a San Diego Jam/Trilene knot hybrid? Interesting. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 3, 2010 Super User Posted August 3, 2010 I tie several knots, but this has become a favorite: Sixteen-Twenty, also known as a Pitzen or Duncan Knot http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12 For braid, San Diego Jam; copolymer or mono-filaments of equal size, Blood Knot; leader to braid, Alberto's Knot. Still, the Palomar Knot is easy to tie and bulletproof! 8-) Quote
BigGame0892 Posted August 4, 2010 Posted August 4, 2010 I pretty much tie the San Diego Jam for everything but braid. I stick with a Palomar for that. One slight difference is that I pass the line through the hook eye twice when I tie the Jam. So, kind of a San Diego Jam/Trilene knot hybrid? Interesting. Yeah, works pretty darn good. Honestly, I changed to passing through the hook eye twice after seeing enough "Knot Wars" on North American Fisherman (?) attesting to the increased breaking strength of knots where the line is doubled up through the eye. Quote
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