HopelesslyAddicted Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Alright I need some advice from some guys that have a good amount of experience with braid and spinning gear. I have been using 10lb power pro and 20lb suffix braids and they perform well on my spinning equipment. I always feel the need to use a leader for extra stealth/confidence. I have been using yozuri ultra soft 6# as the leader and it performs great, but I want to compare it to a true fluorocarbon. I bought some Seaguar Invizx 8# based on some recommendations, but I heard that is usually used as a main line fluoro. Is there a better option for tough, thin fluoro leader material? Keep in mind that I want the line to be thin because I like to use about 6-8 ft of leader so I can retie my lures several times. I usually use an albright knot to tie the leader on and have been very pleased with its performance, but if the line is too thick it will hit my guides a little. I also need the line to be dependably tough because sometimes I have to pull them through 3 feet of weeds. Yozuri US #6 believe it or not does this for me no problem. Also are there better braids to use on spinning gear other than what I'm using that are actually worth the price? Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted July 15, 2010 Super User Posted July 15, 2010 I run 10lb Sufix to whatever lb test Sunline Sniper is appropriate for the situation. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 15, 2010 Super User Posted July 15, 2010 forget the leader and get some fireline braid. Quote
RandySBreth Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 One thing that's great about using a leader is you can use a Fluoro that doesn't necessarily spool well as a main line, as most really tough Fluoros don't, at least on spinning reels. I've had a lot of success with Orvis "Mirage" flyfishing tippet (leader) material. http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_60832_175003000_175000000_175003000_175-3-0 There isn't a tougher or stronger pure Fluoro out there that I'm aware of. I like the 1X for general use, it's the same diameter as most 8- or 10-pound test fluoro's - but it's rated as 14.5-pound test. It's tough stuff, I've had bass drag me through flooded timber in current and barely nick the surface, and pulled fish around dock cables with the 2X diameter dozens of time without breaking off. The downside? If you clicked on that link you saw it - it's expensive , 10 bucks for the smaller 40-meter spools, and 25 bucks for a 100 meter spool. I use a lot of Vanish or Trilene 100% Fluoro for everyday stuff, but if I fish a tournament, or am really trying for a nice fish around heavy cover, I break out the Mirage. Quote
Super User SoFlaBassAddict Posted July 15, 2010 Super User Posted July 15, 2010 I've been excessively happy with 20lb power pro and a 12lb Seagaur AbrazX leader on my spinning setup. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 15, 2010 Super User Posted July 15, 2010 As mentioned before I double the leader strength of my main line, a chain is as storing as it's weakest link, with no difference in lure action. Just this morning I had a stingray on with about 4-5 wingspan, big fish, 15# PP with a 30# mono leader, after a nice battle my palomar broke knot and I lost it, but the line and leader held just fine, I think that's enough strength for a bass. I caught it on a red tail hawk. Quote
NateFollmer Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 forget the leader and get some fireline braid. DodgeGuy what will you ever do if they discontinue that line... I think you'll quit fishing! I use Spiderwire 20lb camo braid and a 12lb flouro leader... I have the same set up on my baitcaster too. Quote
HopelesslyAddicted Posted July 15, 2010 Author Posted July 15, 2010 RandysBreth, I like the idea of the strength of the stuff you mentioned. 1x breaks at 14.5lbs? Sounds great to me because I'm comparing it to what I have already been successful with - Yozuri US #6 (.010" diameter and 11.9 lb breaking strength) Whatever I change to has to be at least as strong if not stronger. Mirage's 1x is the same diameter too. SoFlaBassAddict, I have heard people say that Invizx holds up better than Abrazx, but I don't have first hand experience. Maybe I should bump it up to 10-12 lb Invizx? Fourbizz, I will definitely look into Sunline Sniper, specifically into the breaking strengths in .010-.012 diameters. Dodgeguy, You sure love your fireline braid I prefer to use a leader for confidence, and I did look into some fireline but couldn't find the Lb test or diameter that I wanted (for spinning gear). Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 15, 2010 Super User Posted July 15, 2010 InvisX, and ArazX have no where near the abrasion resistance of say..Yozuri copoly..Yozuri 8lb, holds up better than the 12lb abrazx, when it comes to rocks. I lost 3 Nice bass last Sunday, on invisx. I'll spend less $$$, and stick with yozuri ultrasoft.. Quote
HopelesslyAddicted Posted July 15, 2010 Author Posted July 15, 2010 InvisX, and ArazX have no where near the abrasion resistance of say..Yozuri copoly..Yozuri 8lb, holds up better than the 12lb abrazx, when it comes to rocks.I lost 3 Nice bass last Sunday, on invisx. I'll spend less $$$, and stick with yozuri ultrasoft.. Like I said in the OP I want to compare it to a true fluoro. Trust me I'm not going to stop using yozuri I have an 8000 yd spool and currently its only being used as leader material lol. I feel like I may have been spoiled by the strength of yozuri, I mean the stuff just doesn't break. Two weeks ago I caught a 25lb snapping turtle with 10 lb braid and 6lb yozuri leader. Hopefully the suggestions that you guys have made, and will continue to make will lead me to the right fluoro. Oh yeah what invizx were you using? And was it because of a situation where most fluoros would break anyway? Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted July 15, 2010 Super User Posted July 15, 2010 Go with the power pro and P - Line Fluorocarbon leader material. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 15, 2010 Super User Posted July 15, 2010 forget the leader and get some fireline braid. DodgeGuy what will you ever do if they discontinue that line... I think you'll quit fishing! I use Spiderwire 20lb camo braid and a 12lb flouro leader... I have the same set up on my baitcaster too. hope they come out with a better line or switch to samurai. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 16, 2010 Super User Posted July 16, 2010 InvisX, and ArazX have no where near the abrasion resistance of say..Yozuri copoly..Yozuri 8lb, holds up better than the 12lb abrazx, when it comes to rocks.I lost 3 Nice bass last Sunday, on invisx. I'll spend less $$$, and stick with yozuri ultrasoft.. Like I said in the OP I want to compare it to a true fluoro. Trust me I'm not going to stop using yozuri I have an 8000 yd spool and currently its only being used as leader material lol. I feel like I may have been spoiled by the strength of yozuri, I mean the stuff just doesn't break. Two weeks ago I caught a 25lb snapping turtle with 10 lb braid and 6lb yozuri leader. Hopefully the suggestions that you guys have made, and will continue to make will lead me to the right fluoro. Oh yeah what invizx were you using? And was it because of a situation where most fluoros would break anyway? I was using the 6lb InvisX..This was in a lake I have fished many times before, and have caught fish in the same locations many times, and never broke off with the 6lb yozuri. As a side note: I tried the 10lb AbraszX fishing for spotted bay bass in saltwater near a jetty. Again I normally use 8 lb yozuri, and yes, if a spotties takes you into the rocks, sooner or later something has to give, However, in the case of the AbrazX, I felt for a 10 lb test, that it shouldn't have broke so easily compared to the 8lb yozuri. In my experience, and this is in semi stained water most of the time, clear water about 10% of the time, I have caught just as many fish on the yozuri as compared to the fluro lines..no matter what brand. I would say, if you fish weeds, or not to abrasive structure the Seaguar will work fine. Quote
HopelesslyAddicted Posted July 16, 2010 Author Posted July 16, 2010 Thanks Hammer, that's what I needed to know. I don't fish rock too often mostly weeds. Yozuri VASTLY underrates their LB test and I'm sure you know that already, and that's why it never breaks. I also feel like yozuri is certainly "good enough" when it comes to stealth. I've had too much success to think otherwise. But I have never given fluorocarbon a fair shake so I wanted to compare. Thanks again. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 16, 2010 Super User Posted July 16, 2010 There are times when a light fluro line will get bit more, so take that into consideration also..There have been lakes where if you didn't fish with 4lb fluro on a ds..your chances of landing bass were slim, and next to none..this being in almost gin clear water. Quote
HopelesslyAddicted Posted July 16, 2010 Author Posted July 16, 2010 I agree. I believe that even in semi stained water, there are fish big enough and smart enough to see even 6lb yozuri, that why I'm so anxious to try a good strong fluorocarbon. Quote
SJB1226 Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Daiwa Braid with a Sunline Sniper or Megabass Dragon call FC leader. Quote
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