Skeet22 Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 So Flouro is more dense than mono so to me that means you should be able to get away with a little more diameter Flouro and still obtain the same depth as a smaller diameter mono but how much? Would .015 Flouro get as deep as .012 mono? Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted June 30, 2010 Super User Posted June 30, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. Quote
b.Lee Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 I am pretty sure most use flouro is because it sinks. But also the smaller diameter the better. But I use 15# mono, so what do I know. LOL Quote
Senkoman12 Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. it is shown in statistics that most people can cast mono or flouro farther than braid and longs cast are needed for deep cranking and also braid is horrible for cranking because when retrieved it wont sit on the spool right Quote
CKFishin Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. it is shown in statistics that most people can cast mono or flouro farther than braid and longs cast are needed for deep cranking and also braid is horrible for cranking because when retrieved it wont sit on the spool right Ive never noticed this how do you mean? not sit right? like how does it sit? Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted July 1, 2010 Super User Posted July 1, 2010 KVD uses 12# fluorocarbon in most deepcranking situations. He seems to know what he's doing. 8-) I use 12# YoZuri Hybrid, but much could be written on what I don't know about deepcranking. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted July 1, 2010 Super User Posted July 1, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. it is shown in statistics that most people can cast mono or flouro farther than braid and longs cast are needed for deep cranking and also braid is horrible for cranking because when retrieved it wont sit on the spool right Ive never experienced any of those problems, i can cast just as far and it sits perfectly on my spool. :-? Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted July 1, 2010 Super User Posted July 1, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. it is shown in statistics that most people can cast mono or flouro farther than braid and longs cast are needed for deep cranking and also braid is horrible for cranking because when retrieved it wont sit on the spool right Are you serious ??????????????????? Quote
Super User fishfordollars Posted July 1, 2010 Super User Posted July 1, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. it is shown in statistics that most people can cast mono or flouro farther than braid and longs cast are needed for deep cranking and also braid is horrible for cranking because when retrieved it wont sit on the spool right If you are going to post a statement like this post the reference for all of us to see. Sounds like a pile of you know what to me. Someone's sitting behind a desk with too much time on his hands. As far as I'm concerned, the only way to alter the way line (Any) lays on a spool is to alter the mechanics of a reel. Quote
Senkoman12 Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. it is shown in statistics that most people can cast mono or flouro farther than braid and longs cast are needed for deep cranking and also braid is horrible for cranking because when retrieved it wont sit on the spool right thats in my expeirience, thouhg it was cheap pos braid, but most people do not reccomend braid for cranking Quote
NateFollmer Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 I think people don't recommend braid for cranking only because there is no stretch to it and you can rip the hooks out of the fishes mouth. Braid works fine for cranking as long as you don't give them the samurai sword swing! Just a nice sweep to the side is all it takes to hook a crank on braid. Quote
RandySBreth Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 So Flouro is more dense than mono so to me that means you should be able to get away with a little more diameter Flouro and still obtain the same depth as a smaller diameter mono but how much? Would .015 Flouro get as deep as .012 mono? No. Diving depth is a function of line diameter, not how "dense" the line is. I'll use a fluoro leader on thin superline to get deeper, but that's a different story. Quote
Senkoman12 Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 So Flouro is more dense than mono so to me that means you should be able to get away with a little more diameter Flouro and still obtain the same depth as a smaller diameter mono but how much? Would .015 Flouro get as deep as .012 mono? No. Diving depth is a function of line diameter, not how "dense" the line is. I'll use a fluoro leader on thin superline to get deeper, but that's a different story. actually flouro can help you get deeper but it only really works if you are throwing light cranks and are pausing a lot, when paused a floating crank will rise faster with mono because it floats while flouro will keep it at a slow rise or just pretty much keep it suspended Quote
RandySBreth Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 Even a light crank will not be sunk by say 10 -lb. fluoro line. Go try it. I use little baby Bombers on 10 and 12-lb fluoro and they pop right back to the surface. It's not lead core trolling line, it's just fluoro. Again, diving depth is a function of line diameter. Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted July 1, 2010 Super User Posted July 1, 2010 I use copoly for deep-divers, 10lb cxx to be exact. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted July 1, 2010 Super User Posted July 1, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. it is shown in statistics that most people can cast mono or flouro farther than braid and longs cast are needed for deep cranking and also braid is horrible for cranking because when retrieved it wont sit on the spool right If you are going to post a statement like this post the reference for all of us to see. Sounds like a pile of you know what to me. Someone's sitting behind a desk with too much time on his hands. As far as I'm concerned, the only way to alter the way line (Any) lays on a spool is to alter the mechanics of a reel. The only desk he's sitting behind is a school desk. Quote
Senkoman12 Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 I would actually say go with braid and a mono/fluoro leader. I say this because braid is so thin per its strength it will get deeper and no strength makes it more sensitive, while the mono leader gives it a little stretch for treble hooks, and a little less visible. it is shown in statistics that most people can cast mono or flouro farther than braid and longs cast are needed for deep cranking and also braid is horrible for cranking because when retrieved it wont sit on the spool right If you are going to post a statement like this post the reference for all of us to see. Sounds like a pile of you know what to me. Someone's sitting behind a desk with too much time on his hands. As far as I'm concerned, the only way to alter the way line (Any) lays on a spool is to alter the mechanics of a reel. The only desk he's sitting behind is a school desk. no, actually school ended 2 weeks ago Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted July 2, 2010 Super User Posted July 2, 2010 So Flouro is more dense than mono so to me that means you should be able to get away with a little more diameter Flouro and still obtain the same depth as a smaller diameter mono but how much? Would .015 Flouro get as deep as .012 mono? I'd say you're right in the ball park on that one. Wouldn't want to go too much different than what you suggested though. A lot of the deep crankers around here who used to throw 10 pound mono have gone to 12# fluoro instead because they can get the same basic running depth out of their deep baits while increasing feel of the bait on whatever setup they're using and still having very similar stretch characteristics. -T9 Quote
repper Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 I feel I'm better off using sufix deep cranking mono than any flouro. maybe it's just me but by using mono i can cast quite a bit further, and more consistently using mono. using the mono enables me to set up my reel a little looser, enabling longer casts, which theoretically should result in deeper cranking. i've not found a flouro line which will cast(consistently) as well as mono, and i've tried alot of flouro. i can set up the reel "on the edge" so to speak and feel like I'm not going to get a blow up like i might using the flouro. Quote
BobP Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 Fluoro vs mono (same diameter) will get you about a foot deeper on a deep diving crankbait, to answer the specific question. I don't like braid because of handling characteristics and because I don't like casting with a knot in the line to include a fluoro leader. To each his own. As far as ripping out trebles, that depends on the line plus the rod action and I don't think you can consider one without the other. Quote
Skeet22 Posted July 4, 2010 Author Posted July 4, 2010 I was pretty sure that flouro would get dowm a little deeper than mono. I have settled on 10# Yo Zuri for my deep cranking set up. A little bit of the best of both worlds. Quote
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