0ldwun01 Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 I have been out of bass fishing for several years. Back then the only line was mono which seemed to get the job done. Now we got braid, floro, mono, co pol and maybe several others. I used to fish rats like a lot of people fish frogs now. I did buy a Curado E7. Now I need to get a good frog rod. Something under $150. Now for line I was thinking50# braid. PP is everywhere around here. Is that a good choice? what about rod action? I wil fish some grass in Guntersville and some stumps and laydowns around here. Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted June 16, 2010 Super User Posted June 16, 2010 The rod and line you mention would fit the work very well. For a rod in that range, a Dobyns Savvy series would do you well, either the 735 or the 766. Quote
b.Lee Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 I use a Skeet Reese Froggin Rod, for 100 bucks you can't beat, and I also use it on a E7 with 65# PP. Great Set-up. I know the color is a little WOW, but I figure for a dedicated Frog rod the yellow/ green combo is good for Froggy, suits its purpose Quote
LilJakeC1 Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 I use a 7ft MH Lightning rod with 50lb braid. I have a Pro Q 7.1:1 reel on it too. Quote
Super User Shane J Posted June 17, 2010 Super User Posted June 17, 2010 My frog setup is a Vendetta with a Revo STX, and am real happy with it. The Revo is spooled with Power Pro 50lb braid. Quote
Super User David P Posted June 17, 2010 Super User Posted June 17, 2010 Rod : Dobyns Savvy Series 735 or 766 Line : 65lb Braid of your choice, if PP is readily available, go for it, but 65 is a safer bet. Enjoy! Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted June 17, 2010 Super User Posted June 17, 2010 Rod : Dobyns Savvy Series 735 or 766 Line : 65lb Braid of your choice, if PP is readily available, go for it, but 65 is a safer bet. Enjoy! i have always felt that 50 lb. braid is way more than plenty for frogging , i usually use 30 lb. power pro . i have on 50 lb. power pro , had an extra spool for catfishing so i spooled up my Revo SX HS , i couldn't imagine using 65 lb. !!!! :-? Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted June 17, 2010 Super User Posted June 17, 2010 Rod : Dobyns Savvy Series 735 or 766 Line : 65lb Braid of your choice, if PP is readily available, go for it, but 65 is a safer bet. Enjoy! i have always felt that 50 lb. braid is way more than plenty for frogging , i usually use 30 lb. power pro . i have on 50 lb. power pro , had an extra spool for catfishing so i spooled up my Revo SX HS , i couldn't imagine using 65 lb. !!!! :-? 20# PP on med 8/17 spinning rod works well for me. Quote
Super User David P Posted June 17, 2010 Super User Posted June 17, 2010 Rod : Dobyns Savvy Series 735 or 766 Line : 65lb Braid of your choice, if PP is readily available, go for it, but 65 is a safer bet. Enjoy! i have always felt that 50 lb. braid is way more than plenty for frogging , i usually use 30 lb. power pro . i have on 50 lb. power pro , had an extra spool for catfishing so i spooled up my Revo SX HS , i couldn't imagine using 65 lb. !!!! :-? I've had and seen 50lb braid fail on multiple occasions. Frogs catch big fish, and a major part of frogging is done in heavier cover, no reason to give the fish any advantages or chances. There's really no down side to using 65 over 50, only positives. I personally use 70lb braid with frogs, and 80lb with flipping and punching. Spinning reels are another story! Quote
Fat-G Posted June 17, 2010 Posted June 17, 2010 Rod : Dobyns Savvy Series 735 or 766 Line : 65lb Braid of your choice, if PP is readily available, go for it, but 65 is a safer bet. Enjoy! i have always felt that 50 lb. braid is way more than plenty for frogging , i usually use 30 lb. power pro . i have on 50 lb. power pro , had an extra spool for catfishing so i spooled up my Revo SX HS , i couldn't imagine using 65 lb. !!!! :-? I've had and seen 50lb braid fail on multiple occasions. Frogs catch big fish, and a major part of frogging is done in heavier cover, no reason to give the fish any advantages or chances. There's really no down side to using 65 over 50, only positives. I personally use 70lb braid with frogs, and 80lb with flipping and punching. Spinning reels are another story! This dude right here ^ knows his stuff. Quote
KC Bass Fanatic Posted June 17, 2010 Posted June 17, 2010 I've been using a BPS Nitro 7' Heavy for my froggin this year and I absolutely love it. For the price it's hard to beat and it has backbone to spare. 50 or 65lb braid is a must. PowerPro is my favorite. Stay away from P-Line braid, it is garbage. Use a high speed (7:1) reel too. You'll want to ****** them out of the cover in a hurry. Otherwise you'll be hauling more grass than fish. Quote
JR Posted June 17, 2010 Posted June 17, 2010 Someone is going to have to help an old guy out. I am reading the types of setups being used for frog fishing. Why would a high speed high tech reel be needed for fishing the junk. There is only so much length to the diameter of the drive gears in a reel. To get more speed, you cut more teeth. The more teeth the thinner they are. The thinner they are the easier they strip. There will be people that jump up and so "oh that is not how you get the extra speed". Count the teeth and divide to get the gear ratio. More teeth more speed. This would seem to be the place for a more moderately priced reel, that when taken care of and kept tuned will chunk a frog farther than you want to try and get a hook set, even with super duper line. In the seventies and eighties it was the Moss Boss or Johnson Silver Minnow. Then came the Scum Frog and the Snag-Proof Baits. Today we have the "Frogs". Nothing new in fishing, just renamed. Except for the line, not much has changed. The line not only needs to be tough and strong but it needs to cut vegetation. I agree with the thought that any line will break. I would toss line as heavy as I could get away with. If I had a good heavy/ medium heavy rod, with fast action, I would load as heavy of line as I could cast. If you are going to try and use spinning tackle, in the medium action area, you won't be able to load up the real heavy stuff. However when someone asks the difference between spinning and bait casting tackle, you will be able to give them a good example. There are exceptions to this statement but that is a another story. Just think about using a good $80 or $90 dollar reel for "Frog" fishing. You will have an extra high speed reel that you can set up to throw rattle baits. Now Rip-Reeling a rattle bait all day will test the ole arms. Quote
Super User David P Posted June 17, 2010 Super User Posted June 17, 2010 Someone is going to have to help an old guy out.I am reading the types of setups being used for frog fishing. Why would a high speed high tech reel be needed for fishing the junk. There is only so much length to the diameter of the drive gears in a reel. To get more speed, you cut more teeth. The more teeth the thinner they are. The thinner they are the easier they strip. There will be people that jump up and so "oh that is not how you get the extra speed". Count the teeth and divide to get the gear ratio. More teeth more speed. This would seem to be the place for a more moderately priced reel, that when taken care of and kept tuned will chunk a frog farther than you want to try and get a hook set, even with super duper line. In the seventies and eighties it was the Moss Boss or Johnson Silver Minnow. Then came the Scum Frog and the Snag-Proof Baits. Today we have the "Frogs". Nothing new in fishing, just renamed. Except for the line, not much has changed. The line not only needs to be tough and strong but it needs to cut vegetation. I agree with the thought that any line will break. I would toss line as heavy as I could get away with. If I had a good heavy/ medium heavy rod, with fast action, I would load as heavy of line as I could cast. If you are going to try and use spinning tackle, in the medium action area, you won't be able to load up the real heavy stuff. However when someone asks the difference between spinning and bait casting tackle, you will be able to give them a good example. There are exceptions to this statement but that is a another story. Just think about using a good $80 or $90 dollar reel for "Frog" fishing. You will have an extra high speed reel that you can set up to throw rattle baits. Now Rip-Reeling a rattle bait all day will test the ole arms. When walking a frog, you have slack in your line. The higher the speed, the quick you can reel in slack line and set the hook on a big blow up. Fish will inhale the bait and shoot right back down with your bait, giving you not all too much time to reel in all the slack line and set. I've yet to have a high speed reel fail on me at all, and I use them for punching the heaviest of cover with 80lb braid. Quote
guitarkid Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 It also depends on metallurgy of the gears. Some are made of duralumin, which is an aluminum alloy that is very strong. It is commonly used in aircraft and other applications that require light weight and high strength. Still others are brass gears ( I think), which too are alloyed to make a stronger part. But if I had my choice, I would sacrifice a little weight and go with a Steel that has a high nickel high chrome content. If that gear ever strips than something is wrong. -gk Quote
Incheon Basser Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 save a little money and pick up a Dobyns 736c champion....butter !!!!!! with a Lure Weight rating 3/8-2oz you can fish just about any thing in the nasty junk this rod is awesome and the power and length is perfect for a utility nasty stuff rod for multi techniques and wonder why Gary didn't put it in the savvy and the extreme lines..?? Quote
BigMouthBasstard Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 St. Croix Mojo Slop N' Frog with 65lb. Power Pro. You can horse em out of narly anything with that combo. its like running a broomstick with piano wire. Quote
Dockhead Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 St. Croix Mojo Slop N' Frog with 65lb. Power Pro. You can horse em out of narly anything with that combo. its like running a broomstick with piano wire. X2 I had a Citica D on it, now I have a 4600 C3 going. I use it for frogs and horny toads. Quote
SJB1226 Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 The rod and line you mention would fit the work very well. For a rod in that range, a Dobyns Savvy series would do you well, either the 735 or the 766. Ive never fished them but my Nephew LOVES his SS734C what I have seen of it its a ROCK solid frog rod with plenty of power. he has two of them and one he uses for pitching mats and says its great he said its much more sensitive then his >Carrot gold flipping stic<(YUCK LOL) I dont know how sensitive a carrot root is I wont touch one lol but maybe that gives you an idea he sold the carrot and bought him another SS734. I Frog fish with 55# Daiwa braid and 70# depending on what im frogging. He uses Sufix 65# and loves it. My wife and I are on my boat and hes on my dads boat 99% of the time but I will grab it from him tomorrow and tell you how it fishes IMHO. Quote
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