stealthcaster Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 I figure that no one else uses these, because I invented them. I've only shown these to my brother and a few other fishing buddies. I use the Neverslip every time I don't feel like trying to put a large lure (like a 3-treble hook jerkbait) through the loop of a palomar knot. I mainly like it because it's fast and is stronger than most knots (but not the palomar imo.. although it is very close!) The Blackmon Braid Knot works the same way as the palomar, but is a bit different (and in my own testing it is stronger!!). I have only used it on smaller braid (10 to 30lb test). Pretend that the line is doubled up the entire time on the braid knot. You tighten it the exact same way as you would a palomar, and make sure you lube it up with some saliva! I urge you all to give these a try and tell me what you think!!! They have proven strong for me time and time again. Did I mention how good I am with MS paint? Just kidding haha! Happy fishing! Quote
stealthcaster Posted June 2, 2010 Author Posted June 2, 2010 The first knot is known as a Sixteen-Twenty, Duncan or Pitzen Knot:http://206.210.94.83/collaterals/pdf/fhf_knot_sixteen_twenty.pdf Roadwarrior, that knot is very similar but not quite the same. I'll admit I had never heard of those knots, and in fact, that is the exact knot I used to tie all the time! My knot does not go through the top loop (furthest from the lure), which in my experience is better, because the tiny piece of trim can pick up grass on the retrieve. My knot goes through the loop adjacent to the eye of the hook, twice. I realize that there is a possibility these knots may have already been discovered/widely used. I just haven't seen them yet. edit: I could have sworn I was replying to a post Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 2, 2010 Super User Posted June 2, 2010 Upon closer inspection, I realized your knot was slightly different than the 16-20 and deleted my post. For single hooks I'm a fan of the Palomar Knot. I use the 16-20 for bigger lures. If tied properly, both are foolproof. -Kent Quote
midnighthrasher Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 Since I started using a Palomar knot I have never had a break off due to the knot. Its all i use Quote
BassAssasin2 Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 Since I started using a Palomar knot I have never had a break off due to the knot. Its all i use x2 best knot ive came across Quote
bear7625 Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Here is a pretty cool site for knots. animatedknots.com Quote
stealthcaster Posted June 3, 2010 Author Posted June 3, 2010 True. The Palomar is a great knot. I use it all the time. Just thought I'd share some other good knots :> Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted June 3, 2010 Super User Posted June 3, 2010 Most knots tied correctly will not slip. I use only 2 knots for basic fishing ( I'm mostly fishing salt, bigger stronger fish), standard clinch for hooks and swivels and loop knot for lures, these 2 knots work perfect always. Only additional knots I use are for line to line uni-uni or for really big fish the bimini twist. I invented nothing, take my lead from most every charter boat or guide I've been with. Quote
Nine Miler Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Sorry, try this.http://animatedknots.com http://animatedknots.com Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted June 5, 2010 Super User Posted June 5, 2010 Very cool. Always neat to see what people come up with. Thanks for sharing. Quote
rubba bubba Posted June 6, 2010 Posted June 6, 2010 Hook the hook onto something and then pull on the line with your fish scale and see what weight it breaks, and whether it breaks at the knot. Then compare the other one and other knots you know. See how your knots do in your own knot wars. Quote
stealthcaster Posted June 7, 2010 Author Posted June 7, 2010 I can't believe I didn't catch this typo. For the braid not, only 2 wraps. Not 3. oops! : Quote
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