LAO162 Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Is there one type of rod that can be used for for T-Rig, C-Rig, Toads, Frogs & Small Swimbaits?? Currently, I the best rod I have for these techniques is a Kistler LTX 6'9" MH. However, I don't have any rods over 7'0". Because I fish from the bank around a lot of brush and under trees, I have been hesitant to invest in a rod that would not be optimal for my environment. Also, due to the conditions where I fish, flipping & pitching are not in my bag of tricks. However, if one rod would cover each of the T-Rig, C-Rig, Toads, Frogs & Small Swimbaits situations better than my current rods, I might consider investing in an all purpose long rod. Thanks Quote
bigfruits Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 im not sure if this would be better than what you currently own, but i would use an mbr844c. i prefer something a little lighter for t-rig and toads, however. the mbr783c is my favorite all around rod but might not be the best choice for small swimbaits and frogs... Quote
LAO162 Posted April 9, 2010 Author Posted April 9, 2010 An mbr844c would certainly be an increase in power and length relative to anything I have now. It is also outside of my current budget, but it could be doable if I post some items on the flea market I'm also wondering if I need to dedicate that much of my overall budget to a rod that would get only occasional use. I can see having a sensitive rod for T-Rigs & Jigs, but I'm not sure if it is necessary for the other techniques. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted April 9, 2010 Super User Posted April 9, 2010 a rod that i have that would cover all those is a Carrot Stix 7'XHf , this rod has a ton of backbone !! is super light and has a good tip for casting baits in it's recommended weight range . overall a great all purpose rod , i highly recommend it Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 9, 2010 Super User Posted April 9, 2010 The MBR844C will be you favorite rod and you can use it for everything you listed. The IMX series is occasionally available for $175 - $200 if you shop around. Ask Bronzefly for some help, he seems to be "in touch". 8-) Quote
LAO162 Posted April 9, 2010 Author Posted April 9, 2010 MBR844C Hmmm. Might need to place a couple Techna AV's on the Flea Market... It would be pretty hard to pull the trigger and finish that fore sale post. On the other hand, I certainly like the idea of any extremely versatile rod. Got me thinking Quote
repper Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 use your current rod for t-rig, and get a Powell 704, or 705, for the others. i've got a 705 and use it for all of the techniques you mentioned. a very nice rod for the money imo. i use the 705 for fishing the heavier jigs too. Quote
Super User David P Posted April 10, 2010 Super User Posted April 10, 2010 Easy answer, Dobyns 735 or 736. I use a 735 for T-Rig, C-Rig, Spinnerbaits, Buzzbaits and Small Swimbaits. I use a 736 for Frogs. You could get away with using the 735 for frogs, although I like the added power of the 736. Quote
Super User David P Posted April 10, 2010 Super User Posted April 10, 2010 The MBR844C is a very nice rod, but for frogs and swimbaits? Little on the light side, even with it's H rating. I used mine for Senkos and 1/2oz jigs and felt it had the right power for those baits. IMO. C-Rigs, Frogs and Swimbaits you want to cast far, the longer the rod, the longer your casts. Keep that in mind as well. Quote
LAO162 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Posted April 10, 2010 With these techniques, I also assume some compromise will need to be made in the stiffness of tip as well as the power. Regarding the length, from my limited experience with an IMX rod, I'm assuming that a MBR844C would launch a 3/4 oz lure as far as many longer rods that do not load as well. So far, I'm not (yet) blown away by the sensitivity of my SJR723 IMX, but I am extremely impressed by how far it will throw a Fat Ika - hence my belief that rod length is only part of the casting distance equation I am increasingly becoming interested in Dobyns rods due to the split grip option. Thanks for all the ideas to keep me thinking Quote
LAO162 Posted April 11, 2010 Author Posted April 11, 2010 Even though I don't flip, would a decent flipping rod be a decent compromise for Frogs, Toads, Swimbaits and occasional C-Rig?a or, are they typically too stout? Quote
kikstand454 Posted April 12, 2010 Posted April 12, 2010 i have a crucial CRCX76MH that i currently use for c-rigs but have used before for deep jigging and frogs... and t-rigs of course. i think the setup you have will do most anything you want to do with the right line. 15lb flouro or 40 lb braid would be enough/not too much imho. Quote
bugman Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 My all purpose rod is the St. Croix AVC73MHF. At 7'3" it is a long rod but it is a teloscopic rod so it's easy to transport. It's a great C-Rig, Frog, Swimbait & Pitch rod. I use other rods for most plastics. Quote
uicdent11 Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 I would try to get your hands on either of these rods: Loomis MBR844 Dobyns 735c Dobyns DX744 I now use the two Dobyns for the techniques you list. Not sure if either would cover all, but you might be able to decide on you preference if you could handle any listed. Here in N. IL, I would tend to lean towards the 744 as I only use the 735 for froggin and I think the 744 could handle it if need be. Quote
midnighthrasher Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 Cumara 6'8 medium heavy extra fast...... Match it with a core 100 mgfv..... This is my favorite combo Quote
chadwick902 Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 Dobyns 784 Extreme. The sweetest rod I have had the pleasure to fish with. Very well balanced and extremely sensitive. Quote
LAO162 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Posted April 14, 2010 Thanks for the suggestions. I'm definately putting Dobyn's on my list for consideration. The Cumara was already there Since I just ordered a new 7'0" MH, I'm now thinking that I may look at something dedicated to Frogs, Toads & Small Swimbaits. However, it may take a while unless I suddenly sell a bunch of stuff. The "accountant" just gave the Baitmonkey a [well deserved] scolding ;D ;D Quote
uicdent11 Posted April 15, 2010 Posted April 15, 2010 If you just got the MH, and you are thinking Dobyns, then I would strongly consider the 735c for Frogs, Toads, and small Swimbaits. Quote
LAO162 Posted May 17, 2010 Author Posted May 17, 2010 Thanks for all the great ideas here. After thought and budget analysis I decided to spend a bit less on concentrate on Frogs/Toads and Smaller Swimbaits in light to moderate cover. Mother's day & unexpected expenses wiped out PayPal and discretionary savings... So, I couldn't pass up the sale on Powells With the help from Keith at Powell, I went with the 764 M (3/16 to 1 oz). The rod rating seems to be ideal for my actual needs. I'm not sure when I will ever be fishing heavy cover, so it seemed prudent to go with what applied to my normal conditions. Wow, the Powell is a beautiful rod! Gorgeous cork and just a hint of bling, but it still looks like a tool and not a fashion statement. I don't think it is my most sensitive rod, but the weight and balance are awesome. With the reel, it balanced just above the hook hanger. I barely notice anything but the weight of the reel. I think the action & power will be perfect for my needs. Using a 3/4 oz swimbait, for the first time I was able to cast further with BC gear than my spinning gear Thanks again for the insights. Who knows, I may still find a deal on a MBR844C that I can't pass Quote
Incheon Basser Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Easy answer, Dobyns 735 or 736. I use a 735 for T-Rig, C-Rig, Spinnerbaits, Buzzbaits and Small Swimbaits. I use a 736 for Frogs. You could get away with using the 735 for frogs, although I like the added power of the 736. x2 Quote
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