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Anyone using a Curado E7 reel, have you ever felt yet that it's too fast??  Like do you wish they made a 6.3 version like they do the Citica for use on certain baits?? 

I'm debating grabbing one for use on my MH/F rod for jigs, t-rigs, and frogs but I'd also use this rod for spinnerbaits too.  I've read where people use the E7 for these but I can't get around in my head seeing a spinnerbait burning through the water or having to crank ridiculously slow in order to move it at just a moderate speed only.  And an E5 is just a 5.0 speed, which again, in my head means too slow or crank your arm off to speed it up. 

I've also read from some that they just get a Citica for this, or they even go so far as to order gears and convert an E7 to an "E6" ;D

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I think there is only like 2 or 3 inches per turn difference in the Curado and the Citica. I own both models, let me check.

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Citica 200e- 27 IPT

Curado 200e7- 30 IPT

That isn't enough for me to tell much difference when fishing, really. Both reels are fast. It's easy to slow down though. Most slower presentations, like jigs, etc. you are moving the lure with the rod, not the reel so much. Just need to take the slack up quickly with the reel if you're bit.

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rooster, when the curado e's first came out, i lamented that they were only available in 7:1 and 5:1 gear ratios but i bought them anyway. i discovered that i really liked having the faster ratio for bottom-contact baits and the slower ratio for moving baits. so much so, in fact, that i hardly even touched my citica e's in the 6:1 ratio so i ordered the curado gearsets and converted them, one to 7:1 and the other to 5:1.

if you're interested, i'll sell you one of the 6:1 gearsets for your curado for $20 shipped...it consists of the main gear and the pinion gear and can't have been used for more than 20 casts. the conversion is super-easy. if you're converting an E5, you can reuse the drag washer and key washer. but, if you want to convert an E7 to an "E6", then you'll also need to pick up the appropriate key washer (about $6) and a drag washer (you can upgrade to a carbontex washer for about $8).

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Rooster, Snoopy2's advice is excellent.

Try the E5 for moving baits and the E7 for plastics and bottom baits.  :)

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a spinnerbait thrown with my E7 isn't really moving that much faster than a spinnerbait thrown on my old 6.2:1 Curados. You can tell by looking at it in the water. The old fashioned "eye test." Blades slow the bait down. I gauranteee if you watch a spinnerbait come through the water you will rarely say "wow, how are bass ever gonna catch up to that tasty morsel?"

I've caught plenty of spinnerbait fish on my E7. Its my go-to reel. In fact, if I had money, I'd get about 5 more.

Like KVD says: 2 ways to fish a spinnerbait...fast, and really fast.

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The Curado 200E7 is a fine reel and a great value.

Mine is matched to a BCR854, my dedicated jig rig.

The combination is both beautiful and functional.

Satisfaction rating is a dead solid 10.

8-)

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...Or you could buy the Scorpion 1000 XT (6.4:1 ratio), or wait to see if Shimano brings the Scorpion to the US.

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Anyone using a Curado E7 reel, have you ever felt yet that it's too fast?? Like do you wish they made a 6.3 version like they do the Citica for use on certain baits??

I'm debating grabbing one for use on my MH/F rod for jigs, t-rigs, and frogs but I'd also use this rod for spinnerbaits too. I've read where people use the E7 for these but I can't get around in my head seeing a spinnerbait burning through the water or having to crank ridiculously slow in order to move it at just a moderate speed only. And an E5 is just a 5.0 speed, which again, in my head means too slow or crank your arm off to speed it up.

I've also read from some that they just get a Citica for this, or they even go so far as to order gears and convert an E7 to an "E6" ;D

Uhmmmmm, you can always go Japanese and get a Scorpion 1500XT, it 's the same speed of the Citica.

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Do you think a Stradic 2500FI spinning reel would be to fast?  If not, the E7 would be fine.  The Stradic 2500FI has a IPT of 34."   :)

Sometimes I'm surprised that there is so much concern about the gear ratio of baitcasters, but so little discussion as it pertains to spinning reels.  Since I fish only a couple hours a week it is not a big deal for me to speed up or slow down.  It also means I may not recognize the nuances as it pertains to technique  :)  However, my preference is to crank slower than really fast. 

I think the difference with a 4.7 reel at 19 IPT and a 7.3 reel at 33 IPT would be a big difference.  However, my technique is not developed enough to recognize the difference between 27 & 30 IPT.  I hope that I am able to dectect the actual bait speed through sight and sensation of the lure through the rod.

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rooster, when the curado e's first came out, i lamented that they were only available in 7:1 and 5:1 gear ratios but i bought them anyway. i discovered that i really liked having the faster ratio for bottom-contact baits and the slower ratio for moving baits. so much so, in fact, that i hardly even touched my citica e's in the 6:1 ratio so i ordered the curado gearsets and converted them, one to 7:1 and the other to 5:1.

if you're interested, i'll sell you one of the 6:1 gearsets for your curado for $20 shipped...it consists of the main gear and the pinion gear and can't have been used for more than 20 casts. the conversion is super-easy. if you're converting an E5, you can reuse the drag washer and key washer. but, if you want to convert an E7 to an "E6", then you'll also need to pick up the appropriate key washer (about $6) and a drag washer (you can upgrade to a carbontex washer for about $8).

That sounds like an excellent idea.  I won't know if I need to do this until after I get one though, and I am currently trying to sell off my Extreme reels in order to afford one.  Can't just lay down the money.  I may end up with Citica's anyway though and they will be 6.3 ratios. 

About upgrading the drag washers, isn't the Dartanium drag washers they use good enough??

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Do you guys feel that gear ratios over 6:1 are too fast for slow crawling a buzzbait over the surface while keeping it on top?

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Do you guys feel that gear ratios over 6:1 are too fast for slow crawling a buzzbait over the surface while keeping it on top?

Nope. The faster, the better with buzzbaits and spinnerbaits, IMO. You'll be glad you have that extra speed when the bass hits from behind and comes toward you, and you need to reel down and set the hook.

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Anyone using a Curado E7 reel, have you ever felt yet that it's too fast?? Like do you wish they made a 6.3 version like they do the Citica for use on certain baits??

I'm debating grabbing one for use on my MH/F rod for jigs, t-rigs, and frogs but I'd also use this rod for spinnerbaits too. I've read where people use the E7 for these but I can't get around in my head seeing a spinnerbait burning through the water or having to crank ridiculously slow in order to move it at just a moderate speed only. And an E5 is just a 5.0 speed, which again, in my head means too slow or crank your arm off to speed it up.

I've also read from some that they just get a Citica for this, or they even go so far as to order gears and convert an E7 to an "E6" ;D

E7.  Faster reels have more pros than cons.  I've swapped out all of my reels to fast ones, except two, and those are for billed crankbaits only.

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About upgrading the drag washers, isn't the Dartanium drag washers they use good enough??

sure they are...i just meant that if you had to buy new dartarium drag washers for $8, you mght as well buy carbontex washers for $9 instead. they are smoooooooooooth 8-)

and, actually, i misremembered about the which parts you need. ;D here's the correct info in a copy and paste of my post on this topic from another forum:

to put citica E200 gears into a curado E7, you will need:

  • BTN 3951 (main gear)
  • BTN 3953 (pinion gear)
  • BTN 2430 (key washer)

note: you can reuse the drag washer (BTN 2431) since they are the same

to put citica E200 gears into a curado E5, you will need:

  • BTN 3951 (main gear)
  • BTN 3953 (pinion gear)
  • BTN 2430 (key washer)
  • BTN 2431 (drag washer)

to put curado E7 gears into a citica E200, you will need:

  • BTN 3914 (main gear)
  • BTN 3923 (pinion gear)
  • optional: BTN 3913 (key washer) note: you can save yourself $7 by reusing the key washer from the citica; it fits but is ever so slightly undersized which may or may not affect performance...i personally did not want to chance it

note: you can reuse the drag washer (BTN 2431) since it is the same

to put curado E5 gears into a citica E200, you will need:

  • BTN 3942 (main gear)
  • BTN 3943 (pinion gear)
  • BTN 3941 (key washer)
  • BTN 2662 (drag washer) note: instead of the dartanium drag washer from shimano, i used a carbontex drag washer from smoothdrag.com ($9) feels great

just a word of warning though...the gears ain't cheap. the main gear and pinion gears are about $16-$18...each. the key washers are about $6 and the drag washers are about $8. add shipping.

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