Abu Garcia Vengeance rod

[Pantera61]

It is more a problem with people giving misinformation than anything. Giving the impression that the Vendetta is better than a Cumara due to tip breakage problems is flat out false.

People come here for purchase questions and a lot use this site exclusively when making a decision on what rod to purchase. They should be given the truth not infomercial like claims by people trying to push a product that they purchased.

There is nothing I have stated that is false.  I have no financial stake in Abu Garcia or Pure Fishing.  You might want to choose your words more wisely and refrain from impugning anyone's integrity or honesty.

I didn't make up claims of superiority of any brand any more than I made up claims of broken tackle.  I backed up my point with evidence as opposed to innuendo and personal attacks.

[Boogey Man]

Who resurrected my month old thread and then started fighting over it? :-?

[CWilliams]

There was no "wealth of reading material". A google search turned up maybe 2 cases where the tip had broke and one said it could have been because of shipping. You know very well that there would not be much info on the vendetta because it is so new. You use this as "evidence" that there are no problems with this rod and even allude to it being better than rods 2-3 times the price.

I did not intend to argue with you. I just wont sit and watch the spreading of misinformation.

EDIT: There is no fight here. People can disagree on things without it being a fight.

[Pantera61]

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There was no "wealth of reading material". A google search turned up maybe 2 cases where the tip had broke and one said it could have been because of shipping. You know very well that there would not be much info on the vendetta because it is so new. You use this as "evidence" that there are no problems with this rod and even allude to it being better than rods 2-3 times the price.

I did not intend to argue with you. I just wont sit and watch the spreading of misinformation.

EDIT: There is no fight here. People can disagree on things without it being a fight.

Did I claim the Vendetta rods didn't break? No. I asked if the warranty was used. That's not misinformation or claiming it's better than a rod 3X it's price.

1. From *** review:

Customer feedback on Shimano Cumara Reaction Casting Rods

Comments:Got the 6'9 MH model not long ago and broke the rod tip right off on the second use, a highly touted product that failed miserably, far too lightly built, splintered like a dried out twig...not at all happy with Shimano.

From:Zach: Michigan, USA

2. TackleTour Forum

Re: Shimano Cumara

by stefano » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:08 am

I had one The 6'8" Mh

To begin with I found the tip to be ligth for a MH rod.

My worst fear came to reality when while bringing in a 4lb. bass the tip snapped off.

3. Another forum

Re: Shimano Cumara or Falcon Cara (aubassman) »      10:00 PM 2/11/2010      Reply Edit

In my opinion, there's a big price difference between these two rods unless you can get the cumara discounted. i think i know where you are getting your falcons since you are in Auburn. you can get the cara's for $130-$160 and the cumaras are $200-$230 i believe. i haven't seen them discounted anywhere.

i disagree that the cumara is a better built rod. i had bad experiences with the cumara, but i had great customer service on the ones i broke. the foam deteriorated in less than a year, the coating on the reel seat came off and i had few other problems. that is just my experience though. from the posts most folks have had very good experiences with them. i fished them for over a year and they weren't for me.

that's just 3 from the first page. Texas Fishing Forum, Florida Forum, Louisiana Forum and Alabama Forums have similar tales of woe. The Vendetta performs beyond it's price point.

I don't feel it's a fight either, just a disagreement.

[Boogey Man]

agree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.

That's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta.  Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip"  both provide a wealth of reading material!

My post on fighting was meant to be a joke, should have put some smileys after it. But anyway, what does a Cumara and Crucial broken tips have to do with anything? I don't recall anyone mentioning or asking about Shimano.

[Pantera61]

agree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.

That's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!

My post on fighting was meant to be a joke, should have put some smileys after it. But anyway, what does a Cumara and Crucial broken tips have to do with anything? I don't recall anyone mentioning or asking about Shimano.

Someone mentioned coming here seeking information about rods.  I was simply pointing out it was the first time I'd heard about a broken tip on Vendetta but I had read about quite a few incidents with the Cumara and Crucial tips breaking.

This "you dare not question Shimano" mentality causes more problems than any other on any forum.  Don't think it's true?  There's a PowerPro thread regarding roughness where guys are actually questioning how the guy set up his rod.

[CWilliams]

My comments had nothing to do with brand loyalty.

[Boogey Man]

agree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.

That's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!

My post on fighting was meant to be a joke, should have put some smileys after it. But anyway, what does a Cumara and Crucial broken tips have to do with anything? I don't recall anyone mentioning or asking about Shimano.

Someone mentioned coming here seeking information about rods. I was simply pointing out it was the first time I'd heard about a broken tip on Vendetta but I had read about quite a few incidents with the Cumara and Crucial tips breaking.

This "you dare not question Shimano" mentality causes more problems than any other on any forum. Don't think it's true? There's a PowerPro thread regarding roughness where guys are actually questioning how the guy set up his rod.

That cracks me up. So, I ask a question about a Vengeance rod, nothing else, not a Vengeance vs. Crucial or Cumura, you bring up these other rods and then complain about people defending Shimano? No one mentioned Shimano until you did. Relax and go fishin'

[Grey Wolf]

You all should just go fishing.

[shamgar]

I was just about to buy two vendettas but now im skeptical.  What might get me to buy them anyways was the price.

Someone else listed a place called aquasuperstore, they have the vendettas for 50.00!

Here is the link

ww.aquasuperstore.com/products/Abu-Garcia-Vendetta-30-Ton-Graphite-6'9"-Medium-Heavy-Casting-Rod~62911.html

Can you go wrong on a 80.00 rod for 50.00?

Im still looking for this deal on falcons or lamiglass rods.  Anybody have some good online retailers they would like to share?

[Pantera61]

I was just about to buy two vendettas but now im skeptical. What might get me to buy them anyways was the price.

Someone else listed a place called aquasuperstore, they have the vendettas for 50.00!

Here is the link

ww.aquasuperstore.com/products/Abu-Garcia-Vendetta-30-Ton-Graphite-6'9"-Medium-Heavy-Casting-Rod~62911.html

Can you go wrong on a 80.00 rod for 50.00?

Im still looking for this deal on falcons or lamiglass rods. Anybody have some good online retailers they would like to share?

I'll put it this way, the Vendetta would be a great rod @ $150.00.  It would be an excellent rod @ $200.00.  So be confident @ $80.00.  Dance in the streets @ $50.00.