Gummybear Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 I was wondering if anyone knows if these are availible yet and where. I am very eager to try them and have not seen them at any of my local stores. Quote
Super User Tin Posted January 27, 2008 Super User Posted January 27, 2008 Hate to say it but they are nothing special, and the "technology" they used isn't new either. Just stick with a regular Lewis with different hooks. Quote
The Next KVD Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Plus they cost $12.99 at BPS or $8.99 at Cabelas i think. so that tells u that BPS is really trying to get a profit! Quote
senko_77 Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Hate to say it but they are nothing special, and the "technology" they used isn't new either. Just stick with a regular Lewis with different hooks. Tin, I hate to say it, but I think you have spoken about this bait without any knowledge of it. IMO, they are something special, and they are going to catch people a TON of fish that a normal trap wouldn't. The technology incorporated into the bait is new for Bill Lewis Lures. The first thing new about this bait is the design. The body is designed to dive differently, and it also has ridges to put out more vibrations. Second, you will notice that the bait has a "pot belly" The wide belly had to be specially made to accomodate the new tungsten rattle system. The fact that they use tungsten is one of the reasons why the baits price is higher than the normal Bill Lewis traps. Anyway, when a bait with tungsten rattles is retrieved through the water, it has a different pitch than a normal hardbait. It sends out more of a low "drumming" noise. If your fishing on a lake that gets hit with traps often, the fish can begin to shy away from the high pitched rattling noise. When you come in there with a different sound, those pressured fish bite. Before this bait came out, I used to modify the trap. It's a trick Randall taught me. I would drill a hole in the belly of the bait, dump out the shot, and fill it up with tungsten carbide stroller whell bearings. I would seal it up, and fish it with awesome results. And the last thing about this bait, which is what I like so much about it, is that on the retrieve, if you give it a quick speed burst, the bait will absolutely flip out. It will track straight, then randomly jump hard to the left or right then immediatly continue to track straight again. That jump is going to trigger some big strikes. I have only got to play around with them this winter, but I can't wait to see how they are gonna be in the spring and summer on grass beds. So basically, the Vibra-Trap is just a souped up Rat-L-Trap. As far as the price goes, it may be steep, but it's just like a car. If you want a normal car, you pay normal price. If you want a bunch of ad ons, it's gonna cost you. My only problem with this bait is the fact that there charging $13 and still putting Eagle Claw hooks on them. Quote
Super User Bassin_Fin@tic Posted January 28, 2008 Super User Posted January 28, 2008 backordered backordered! i cant get them anywhere yet.BPS and Cabelas cncelled my orders and basically told me to wait in line. Quote
Super User Tin Posted January 28, 2008 Super User Posted January 28, 2008 Like you sais senko, it is new technology for Bill-Lewis, they have caught up to other manufacturers. Tell if me I'm wrong because I love learning new things and I love fishing lipless cranks... The different body design... That is the head with a little bit of a dent in the head for a different wobble? LC already started that. Ridges for more vibration, like the ridges of a Red Eye Shad or Diamond Shad? About the tungstein rattle system, I though Jackall started doing that in their cranks and jerks? :-? It just appears as though they rolled it all into one bait. Quote
senko_77 Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 Like you sais senko, it is new technology for Bill-Lewis, they have caught up to other manufacturers.Tell if me I'm wrong because I love learning new things and I love fishing lipless cranks... The different body design... That is the head with a little bit of a dent in the head for a different wobble? LC already started that. Ridges for more vibration, like the ridges of a Red Eye Shad or Diamond Shad? About the tungstein rattle system, I though Jackall started doing that in their cranks and jerks? :-? It just appears as though they rolled it all into one bait. The different body design is new to Bill Lewis Lures and yes, it does closely resemble the Lucky Craft lipless bait, and its purpose is identical to LC's design, to stabalize the bait when it is diving hard on a fast retrieve. The ridges are not like the Red Eye or the Diamond Shad. If you enlarge a picture of the Vibra-Trap, you will see 3 raised ribs on the end of the bait. These ribs will throw off much more vibration that a smooth sided bait. As far as I know, all Jackall baits are a mix of tungsten and steel balls. The Vibra-Trap's ratte system is 100% tungsten. The only thing similar is Yo-Zuri's Hardcore Drum, but that has a tungsten sideplate that the steel balls knock up against. And like you said, they did roll up all these features in to one bait. Now rather than having to buy 3 different baits with only one of the characteristics you like, you now have a bait with ALL the things that will make the perfect lipless crankbait....except for the junky hooks ;D Quote
Super User Tin Posted January 29, 2008 Super User Posted January 29, 2008 Ok got you now Senko. Great explanation too, you know your Lipless Cranks. Quote
Stringjam Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I'm going to try one - - since I dig lipless cranks, but I I don't really care for the typical BS marketing strategies some of the companies keep using. I'm sure it's going to catch fish, and it's probably a great little lipless crank, but I don't really see anything groundbreaking here. I'm going to keep an open mind though - - I'm not going to say anything bad about it until I've spent some time fishing it.....but it has some stiff competition from some lipless cranks that have been using some of these ideas for years. My Air Viper Risebackers have low-tone rattles (or none at all), super sharp hooks, beautiful finish work, and most importantly - and action that triggers fish......and I can find them for $7-$10 on eBay anytime. And you want to talk big vibration from a lipless crank....think Shimano Undulator.... Lots of great vibes out there - - they all have certain attributes that make them better for this condition or that......there is no one perfect lipless for every condition......that's good though - - it's just another excuse to buy some more... ;D Quote
LCpointerKILLA Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I dont care about another bill lewis, I have plenty that are way better. Quote
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