Line For Weightless T-Rigs

[GatorNation]

I posted a topic about my line "jumping" on the cast a few weeks ago, and I'm still having the issue.  I use 30lb PP for fishing weightless plastics.  Today I was told to try something lighter, and I went with 14lb Fireline off a recommendation.  I'm still having the same issue, and not to mention the line left my hands and rod black.  I've added brakes, adjusted my spool tension, and nothing seems to work.  Does anyone else have suggestions? I love PP, but would fluro work better? Maybe a lighter or heavier PP? What line do you guys use for weightless T-Rigs (mostly Senkos)? Sorry, I had to vent somewhere.

[roadwarrior]

Hmm...

I fish spinning tackle with #6 Yo-Zuri Hybrid.

8-)

[Uncle Leo]

Although Spinning Rods are the preferred gear for weightless plastics it can be done with a baitcasting rod with the right rod and larger heavier plastics. I remember your previous post but at no time did you describe the rod you were using. casting light weights is not purely based on line selection. Line, rod and reel all needs to be taken into consideration. Rod being the most important.

One more thing to consider, do not expect great casting distance. You will not want the distance anyway as this type of fishing will require line watching at times to detect a strike. Many striles will happen on the fall. i perfer this method on a calm day over weed beds.

[Hammer 4]

Ha, try throwing a 6" roboworm on a baitcaster.. ;D

Unless I'm throwing a senko, or a bait that weighs about the same, I'm using my spinning rig. Same as RW 6lb test..At the present time, I'm trying out the Seaguar Invisx..so far, me likey..

[BassThumb]

Here's your thread. I think you're casting too jerky, with too much wrist. You want to try to load the rod and make it do the work for you.

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1267145472/3#3

After trying 20# once, I strongly recommend against using braid under 30# on a baitcasting reel because the diameter is too small to wrap itself properly on the spool, and when tightened down with a snag or a fish, it cuts into the line on the spool too easily and damages the line. 30# might even be too thin, after all it's only the equivalent of 8# mono. I starting to think that 50#+ is the best way to go, even though it sounds excessive. I would respool that Fireline on a spinning reel. Thats the perfect size for them.

Some new braid has that dye on it that you saw on your hands. No worries, just keep it off your clothes.

For Senkos, I use 15 and 17# fluoro because I fish them on jig and worm rods. The fluoro makes the Senko sink a little faster, which some say is not a good thing. Some opt to use mono on dedicated Senko rods, because it does not drag the Senko down like heavy fluoro will. I intend to compare this year because I'm curious how much of a difference it will make when using mono vs. fluoro for Senkos.

[SoFlaBassAddict]

Hmm...

I fish spinning tackle with #6 Yo-Zuri Hybrid.

8-)

x2

I use #8, but I'd imagine the difference is negligible. I think the 8 is like 0.11 and the 6 is 0.10 diameter.  Or somewhere right around there.

[GatorNation]

Thanks Beaver...I've been working on my wrist, and I don't think thats too much of an issue anymore...This issue is more noticeable with my Citica/Reese Jig/Worm setup than my Chromica/Greenwater setup.  Maybe I should switch my Citica over to my Loomis Rod to see if it makes any difference.  I am kinda wondering if it would have been better to wait and invest in the IMX or Champion I've been drooling over.   

[BassThumb]

Thanks Beaver...I've been working on my wrist, and I don't think thats too much of an issue anymore...This issue is more noticeable with my Citica/Reese Jig/Worm setup than my Chromica/Greenwater setup. Maybe I should switch my Citica over to my Loomis Rod to see if it makes any difference. I am kinda wondering if it would have been better to wait and invest in the IMX or Champion I've been drooling over.

Not a problem. Rods with whippy tips will make small casting troubles worse. You're on the right track with the Champion, I must say.

[bwell]

I use 15# yo-zuri hybrid on my Revo STX and 65# Power Pro on my Pro Qualifier and have no problems casting a weightless senko...  I was fishing yesterday, casting into some heavy wind and never had a problem.  It just takes practice, start with a weighted (light weight) t-rigged senko and pracitce with that, once you get good at that try taking the weight off and see what happens.

[Grey Wolf]

I use 15# yo-zuri hybrid on my Revo STX and 65# Power Pro on my Pro Qualifier and have no problems casting a weightless senko... I was fishing yesterday, casting into some heavy wind and never had a problem. It just takes practice, start with a weighted (light weight) t-rigged senko and pracitce with that, once you get good at that try taking the weight off and see what happens.

A five inch senko weight 3/8 oz. , hardly weightless.

[bwell]

If he is having trouble throwing a senko he needs to add a little weight to practice I think...

And you are right a senko is hardly light weight...

[Brewerbass]

Spinning rod is better equipment to use.

[I.rar]

i throw weightless 5" senkos/trick sticks on a 6'6" MH/F fenwick eagle gt , citica 201d and 10# big game or cxx. whatever i decide to spool up with. i have no problems getting decent distance with a light wind...

[Raul]

4" & 5 " senkos are far from being light, 4 inchers weight 1/4 oz, 5 inchers weight 3/8 oz, any baitcaster can cast that with no issues, so as practically any rod can cast those weights.

So if you are trying to cast unweighted light plastics it 's a matter of improper balance between the rod/line/reel system, lighter baits require lighter line, but 30 lb PP is very light so that 's not the problem, the reel ? could be or it could be not, it 's necessary to make good adjustments to the tension and braking system, now that brings us to the rod, trying to cast a light bait with a stiff rod is just asking for trubble, a M/ML power rod is capable of loading and casting properly with very light baits.

[GatorNation]

Thanks Raul...I've been told to try a M action rod for my worming.  I don't really think this is an issue of practicing either, because my reel does not do this with heavier lures.  I just feel my equipment isn't suited to work well with weightless Senkos.  I fished all my worms for the past year and a half with a MH/Greenwater and never had this issue, even though I was using a lower level reel.  I feel the Citica should handle better than my Chromica. 

[Raul]

Thanks Raul...I've been told to try a M action rod for my worming. I don't really think this is an issue of practicing either, because my reel does not do this with heavier lures. I just feel my equipment isn't suited to work well with weightless Senkos. I fished all my worms for the past year and a half with a MH/Greenwater and never had this issue, even though I was using a lower level reel. I feel the Citica should handle better than my Chromica.

Old Chromica or new Chromica ?

[kikstand454]

your citica on the reese rod should throw a senko just fine. esp. with that light pp u were using. the reese rod has a soft enough tip... at almost any action... to throw a 3/8 oz lure.

just remember... like said before.. its not going to be a cast as far as your 1/2oz t-rig.   but you should be fine with some practice.

i throw an unweighted floating trick worm on a 3/0 hook on a 6'6" mh convergence rod with a pinnacle solene on it.

the citca and reese has GOT to be better than that right?

[GatorNation]

@Raul: It's the Chromica B, and I bought it at the beginning of last year.  For me, it's an awesome reel to pitch with.  But thanks for the advice everyone.  I guess I just need to play around with line to see what works best for me.  I just don't want to dish out $10+ every time I want to try a new line.