CRANK BAIT ROD'S

[spinners]

INTERESTED IN =YOUR FAVORITE CRANK BAIT ROD, AND WHY.I'AM LOOKING FOR A COUPLE,TO REPLACE SOME BADLY WORN ONE'S, AND WANT TO UP GRADE SOME AT THE SAME TIME, ALSO THROWING SOME BIG SWIM BAIT'S,WHAT'S SOME OF THE LIGHEST ROD'S AND HOW DURABLE ARE THEY.7/FT OR LONGER...ANY INPUT IS APPRECIATED.

THANK'S SPINNER'S

[roadwarrior]

Well, first of all, lose the caps...

Medium weight, shallow running: St. Croix Avid AVC70MM

Deep divers:  Lamiglas SR705R is THE BOMB!

8-)

[Nine Miler]

spinners, turn off your caps lock.  That stuff is difficult to read.

[gotarheelz14]

RoadWarrior, or anyone who can answer,

What is the difference between the two rods you mentioned. And, how deep is "deep diving cranks"

Furthermore, can deep diving suited rods be used for shallow diving crankbaits?

[burleytog]

Deep = >12'

Using a rod less than 7'6 for deep crankbaits is an exercise in futility.

[Hooligan]

I can't say that I agree with you on that Burley.  I picked up a Cumara CUC70H and it fishes much more comfortably than my CBR906. 

Can rods used to fish...say a DD22...double up on ...say...a DT4?  Sure.  While it isn't the most optimum, you can certainly use a rod for a wide range of baits.

Then again, it's my opinion of what works for me.  What Burley's opinion is, is that which works for him.  The best possible thing you can do is get them in your hands at shops or from friends and make that decision yourself.

(FTR, one of my favorite cranks is SK Mini, I fish that bait on an Avid AVC70MM.  I'll also throw Fat Free Shads, DT16's, Thugs, and DD22.  So far, I'm enjoying throwing all of those same baits on the Cumara as well.)

[burleytog]

No, it is a simple matter of physics, not opinion.

A deep diving crankbait like a DD22 does not instantly dive to it's target depth. It's dive path is angled. It takes a while to get that bait down to it's maximum depth. Once it gets there, it reaches a point where it will start it's way back up.

With a 7'6+ rod, you will be able to cast farther. A longer cast gives a deep crank more time in the strike zone.

I spend a lot of time throwing DD22's, 3/4 oz. Hot Lips and 3/4 oz. Fat Free Shads. Throwing into 20' of water and dragging the bait over points, ledges and humps. What is the point of making a cast, cranking the bait down and have it barely make bottom before it starts back up?

I once spent a night out with a guy who spends about 80% of his time (June-Sept) throwing a deep crank.  He was using a 7'6 rod, I was using a 7' rod.  Both of us were using 10 lb. PLine and throwing a DD22.  He was able to cast 10-15 yards farther than I and was able to keep that bait where it needed to be for longer.  Consequently, he caught fish and I didn't.

Can you fish a >12-15' crankbait on a 7' rod? Of course. But you aren't maximizing your presentation by doing so. A 7' rod is fine for baits that run <10' as it doesn't take long for that bait to reach it's maximum depth.

With deep cranks, longer casts are always better.

[Hooligan]

I cannot say that I disagree with your thought process, but I can still say that it comes to opinion on what works in your situation.  I fish a 7'11" rod that I might get 10 feet more out of a cast, not 15 yards.

Also, I don't need the extra distance.  Sure there are situations that it would be nice to have a bit longer cast to cover more water, but it's so rare that I'm lacking it I can't remember the last time it was a perceived issue.  In your situation a 7'6"+ may be better for the longer casts you're afforded.  I can't say that I've ever run into the problem.

[mrbassky]

I cant pick an exact rod for you because I dont know what size baits you throw but I love the Loomis cranking rods. There are alot of good crankbait rods out there but I go with Loomis because of the warranty and I can get them replaced at local tackle shops. My second choice would be shimano and if your on a budget the Bass pro crankin stick is good for the money if you dont mind the power hump.

[roadwarrior]

No, it is a simple matter of physics, not opinion.

A deep diving crankbait like a DD22 does not instantly dive to it's target depth. It's dive path is angled. It takes a while to get that bait down to it's maximum depth. Once it gets there, it reaches a point where it will start it's way back up.

With a 7'6+ rod, you will be able to cast farther. A longer cast gives a deep crank more time in the strike zone.

I spend a lot of time throwing DD22's, 3/4 oz. Hot Lips and 3/4 oz. Fat Free Shads. Throwing into 20' of water and dragging the bait over points, ledges and humps. What is the point of making a cast, cranking the bait down and have it barely make bottom before it starts back up?

I once spent a night out with a guy who spends about 80% of his time (June-Sept) throwing a deep crank. He was using a 7'6 rod, I was using a 7' rod. Both of us were using 10 lb. PLine and throwing a DD22. He was able to cast 10-15 yards farther than I and was able to keep that bait where it needed to be for longer. Consequently, he caught fish and I didn't.

Can you fish a >12-15' crankbait on a 7' rod? Of course. But you aren't maximizing your presentation by doing so. A 7' rod is fine for baits that run <10' as it doesn't take long for that bait to reach it's maximum depth.

With deep cranks, longer casts are always better.

Outstanding reply...Thank you!

[steezy]

I once spent a night out with a guy who spends about 80% of his time (June-Sept) throwing a deep crank. He was using a 7'6 rod, I was using a 7' rod. Both of us were using 10 lb. PLine and throwing a DD22. He was able to cast 10-15 yards farther than I and was able to keep that bait where it needed to be for longer. Consequently, he caught fish and I didn't.

I agree with you on the physics lesson but 6" more on a 7' crankbait rod really shouldn't make that much difference. IMO, it's more personal preference.

My favorite is a Daiwa Steez FleXlite 7' Medium Reaction.