I.rar Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 im getting sick of wind knots. > it seemed after every other cast , the line would knot up like no tomorrow. the last wind knot, i got cought on a snag and now the knot is super tight. any way to fix it? i tried picking it out with my finger nails , but that didnt work and i would hate to have to cut that much line off. im using a 6'6" light/fast spinning rod with a abu 801 spooled with 15/4 PP and 6lb cxx leader joined with a uni-uni. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 25, 2010 Super User Posted March 25, 2010 Learn to make a cast and stop the cast with your index finger on the spool lip. That will eliminate the slack line which leads to the so-called "wind knots". Quote
I.rar Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 Learn to make a cast and stop the cast with your index finger on the spool lip. That will eliminate the slack line which leads to the so-called "wind knots". ive been doing that but i still get them before i would even want to stop the cast. im thinking i may be casting too hard into the wind , but i wouldnt imagine it would knot up this bad. Quote
Bassin for Walleye Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 You might wanna try heavier line...it might help. But I know when I got the lines I would stick a needle through and make it loose enough I could pull it through with my fingers. It never seemed to weaken the line and it sure made the job a lot easier Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 25, 2010 Super User Posted March 25, 2010 If you are getting them during the cast, that means that you have let some of the line wrap around the spool removal button or knob when you were winding in. That loose line on the spool front is your knot cause. Make sure the line is faily snug on the spool before you start winding. Close the bail by hand, do not turn the handle to close the bail. Quote
I.rar Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 If you are getting them during the cast, that means that you have let some of the line wrap around the spool removal button or knob when you were winding in. That loose line on the spool front is your knot cause. Make sure the line is faily snug on the spool before you start winding. Close the bail by hand, do not turn the handle to close the bail. no line wrapped around anything. it may have just been loose on the spool. but i always close the bail by hand. im still new to tying knots that join leaders to main line , so some of them are larger than others. can those large knots going through the guides be the problem too? Quote
I.rar Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 got the larger knot out , but there are still a couple that are too small. looks like someone did a single over hand a couple random times. would soaking the line make things better? and do these knots weaken the line? Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 25, 2010 Super User Posted March 25, 2010 When you close the bail by hand, do you run your palm over the spool edge to make sure the line is started inside the spool edge? Does the line have some tension on it before you start winding? I don't use wimpy superline, but with 30# you can usually just pull the knot out with some effort, wetting may help. If it does break, tie the ends together with a 5 turn uni-uni knot and the knot will be so small it will go unnoticed. I've been using superlines since they were introduced Anthing and everything that can happen has happened to me at some point. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted March 26, 2010 Super User Posted March 26, 2010 and drop the powerpro and get some fireline braid. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted March 26, 2010 Super User Posted March 26, 2010 ^yeah, it's not as limp so it doesn't get blown around as much. Quote
NOVA Angler Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 ^yeah, it's not as limp so it doesn't get blown around as much. That's what she said. Quote
I.rar Posted March 26, 2010 Author Posted March 26, 2010 thanks. ill check out the fireline. if its any stiffer than this powerpro is , im sure i would like it better. Quote
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted March 26, 2010 Super User Posted March 26, 2010 ^yeah, it's not as limp so it doesn't get blown around as much. That's what she said. nice. Quote
NOVA Angler Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 thanks. ill check out the fireline. if its any stiffer than this powerpro is , im sure i would like it better. I like Power Pro fine for heavier lures such as SPRO Frogs, but when it comes to lighter stuff, Fireline is way better. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted March 26, 2010 Super User Posted March 26, 2010 thanks. ill check out the fireline. if its any stiffer than this powerpro is , im sure i would like it better. if you want some stiff braid that won't be succeptible to wind knots try Cortland master braid http://www.cortlandline.com/products/default.asp?id=517 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted March 26, 2010 Super User Posted March 26, 2010 It isn't the line, it's the reel. I use nothing but braid and nothing but spinning, the 801 is great reel, I have an 802 and 804 but the spool on the 801 is not wide enough, that is what causing the wind knots. I also have supremes 35,30......never a wind knot and 25 constant wind knots, it's a small spool also. I just deal with it as I never would go back to mono. Quote
Luke at Gouldsboro Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 keep a couple safety pins (of different sizes) in your tackle box. They should help pick out knots. Quote
I.rar Posted March 26, 2010 Author Posted March 26, 2010 It isn't the line, it's the reel. I use nothing but braid and nothing but spinning, the 801 is great reel, I have an 802 and 804 but the spool on the 801 is not wide enough, that is what causing the wind knots.I also have supremes 35,30......never a wind knot and 25 constant wind knots, it's a small spool also. I just deal with it as I never would go back to mono. it is an excellent reel imo. what line would you recommend? i would hate to go back to mono since its on a light/fast rod , i need as little stretch as possible. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted March 26, 2010 Super User Posted March 26, 2010 I use power pro and just except the wind knots on a small spool reel, part of the downside. Imo the majority of the knots come from popping a top lure or twitching a lure, not a straight retrieve. Quote
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