hitchhiker Posted January 26, 2010 Posted January 26, 2010 I tried it and the only way I could cast it decently was if I was using a relatively heavy weight while c-rigging. (3/4oz+) Was using Power Pro and tried Suffix in 40 and 50. Any lighter the line didn't come off of the spool smooth enough. It was spooled on tightly. What was I doing wrong. How long a cast are some of you getting with a 3/8-1/2 oz jig? Don't want to give up on it just yet as the line is still basically new. Any tips? Quote
brushhoggin Posted January 26, 2010 Posted January 26, 2010 what kinda rod and reel do you have? length and action? i assume you've experimented with different brake settings? Quote
hitchhiker Posted January 26, 2010 Author Posted January 26, 2010 40 Powerpro on a revo SX and 50 suffix on a revo inshore. Both cast great with mon or fluoro, but I couln't get it with the braid. They were on 7ft mh and heavy GUSA's. Quote
brushhoggin Posted January 26, 2010 Posted January 26, 2010 not sure using braided is the problem. Baitcasting reels provide better lure control and accuracy and are suited for lines testing 10 pounds or heavier. They have a tendency to backlash or snarl when the spool spins faster than line is paying out, especially when casting into the wind. While magnetic braking features on baitcasting reels do help prevent backlashes, the most important control is the spool tension knob (usually next to the handles). To set it for each lure, hold the rod perpendicular to your body, disengage the spool and loosen the tension just until the lure starts to drop, then tighten slightly. To cast, disengage the spool and hold your thumb on the spool. Release thumb pressure on the spool when you want the lure to move forward. It is crucial to learn to control spool revolution speed with your thumb. Quote
hitchhiker Posted January 26, 2010 Author Posted January 26, 2010 I'm pretty sure it was me casting with the braid. With the reel properly adjusted, spool tension knob, brakes set the way I like. I was reaching 100 ft with a series 3 crankbait. 1/4oz With braid and a heavier say 1/2 oz the line would stick to itself and slow down the cast and drastically reduce the distance. No backlash involved, just short casts. Quote
Matt Kremers Posted January 26, 2010 Posted January 26, 2010 you can try using some line conditioner. Vicious sells some. KVD sells some too. I do not have experience with it yet, but will soon. It is supposed to work really well Quote
hitchhiker Posted January 26, 2010 Author Posted January 26, 2010 maybe its spooled too tightly? Is that possible? I never thought of that, I'll try respooling with less tension and use some line conditioner on it. Thanks for the replies. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 TRy some Diawa Samuri braid, 55# cast's a 1/2oz jig..a long ways.. Quote
jb7725 Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 double check your reel adjustments i use a stxl with 30 pound power pro which is 8 pound test diameter and i can cast a weightless fluke with it a decent distance no problem Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 40 Powerpro on a revo SX and 50 suffix on a revo inshore. Both cast great with mon or fluoro, but I couln't get it with the braid. They were on 7ft mh and heavy GUSA's. i have a REVO SX and it is spooled with 30# power pro and i can cast baits as small as 3/8" of an ounce a pretty long ways , put on a 1/2 oz. lure and i can cast it a mile ( a long ways , any how !!!! ) that is what the sx does , it casts very far , just takes some fine tuning of the cast control and magnetic brakes . as far as the REVO INSHORE , i have one of those also and it really does not like to cast anything under a 1/2 oz. i had 50 lb. power pro on the inshore and could not get good results on baits that are too light . so i use it on my swimbait rod rated for 2-6 oz. lures . i have 15 lb. p-line CXX now on it . hope that helps . btw , don't give up on the SX , that is a awesome reel ,just take your time with it and learn the brakes and cast control and you shall be rewarded Quote
Super User Tin Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 maybe its spooled too tightly? Is that possible? I never thought of that, I'll try respooling with less tension and use some line conditioner on it. Thanks for the replies. Happens a lot. When I have my reel in "winch" mode the line will cut down into the spool. So yes it can be too tight and there is a good chance this is the issue if all the reel setting are ok. I find it useless to use a line conditioner on braid. Quote
Thai Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 you can try using some line conditioner. Vicious sells some. KVD sells some too. I do not have experience with it yet, but will soon. It is supposed to work really well Why would you put line conditioner on braid? Am I missing something here? When using braid sometime it can dig into iself esp a thinner diameter line like 30-40. Did you get a backlash or set a hook hard or got snagged and tried horsing it off? I find that when I do things like that the line will bury into itself pretty darn good and will cast considerably shorter than usual. Cast it out as far as you can and start pulling some line out and just reel in, if that doesnt do it I know know what to tell ya bud gl figuring it out Quote
Super User Dan: Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid. Quote
Super User Tin Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid. Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D Quote
Super User Dan: Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid. Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D I guess so, but I think the wider diameters seem to help. Quote
Thai Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid. Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D Yup Dan when I spooled your 50 on I got a backlash and in the process of getting it out the line buried itself so deep into the spool that I had to cut all but half of it off just to be able to free my line... Quote
Thai Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid. Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D I guess so, but I think the wider diameters seem to help. "That's what she said" Quote
Super User Tin Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid. Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D I guess so, but I think the wider diameters seem to help. I agree, it is just that 50 pound braid has what...12 or 15 pound diameter? And it doesn't help that the stuff generally has an edge to cut back down. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid. Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D Yup Dan when I spooled your 50 on I got a backlash and in the process of getting it out the line buried itself so deep into the spool that I had to cut all but half of it off just to be able to free my line... That's cause you weren't good at casting back then. ;D Besides, he's not talking about backlashes, this is a separate issue. Quote
Super User Tin Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 LOL....What I learned on... Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 Samuri 55# is the same as 10# mono.. How are you guys getting all these bad overruns..? Quote
Thai Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid. Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D Yup Dan when I spooled your 50 on I got a backlash and in the process of getting it out the line buried itself so deep into the spool that I had to cut all but half of it off just to be able to free my line... That's cause you weren't good at casting back then. ;D Besides, he's not talking about backlashes, this is a separate issue. I know but my point is that filament lines dont dig in so deep even on a bad backlash and you gotta admit, a week into using a BC I was a champ Quote
Super User Dan: Posted January 27, 2010 Super User Posted January 27, 2010 Samuri 55# is the same as 10# mono.. How are you guys getting all these bad overruns..? Who's getting overruns besides the one that Thai mentioned? Quote
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