new BPS carbonlite rods LOL

[dodgeguy]

I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

because the johnny morris signature serires and elites are some of the best rods made and come with fuji titanium frame sic guides or recoils.i've fished with them for years and have NEVER broken one.so i don't need a lifetime waranty even though i've heard if you return it to the store they replace it no questions asked.

[Incheon Basser]

I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

UH I think if i was going to spend 200 on a rod i would buy a Shimano Cumara way before i ever thought about a jm elite... sic guides lifetime warranty, and super hard to beat at any price point... no if the jm elite went on sale for like 100 bucks i would think about it...

So you have not fished with one I take it?

No I have not due to the fact as i stated before. I would not spend 200$ on a BPS rod or reel...  there are about 10 rods i would buy before i ever thought about it...but i have handled them and couldn't tell much difference from the PQ but no i have not fished them

[Travis O]

Here is a link if anyone wants to look/buy.  You cant get to them from the website but it will let you add it to your cart so I assume that means you can order it.

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_10205012____SearchResults

[KYntucky Warmouth]

Here is a link if anyone wants to look/buy. You cant get to them from the website but it will let you add it to your cart so I assume that means you can order it.

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_10205012____SearchResults

went to BPS yesterday and asked about them. They said they had them but they weren't available for purchase yet.  It says quantities are low on the site, I would imagine that if you attempted to purchase one, you would get a back order notice for a while.

[SWMIBASSER]

I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

UH I think if i was going to spend 200 on a rod i would buy a Shimano Cumara way before i ever thought about a jm elite... sic guides lifetime warranty, and super hard to beat at any price point... no if the jm elite went on sale for like 100 bucks i would think about it...

So you have not fished with one I take it?

No I have not due to the fact as i stated before. I would not spend 200$ on a BPS rod or reel... there are about 10 rods i would buy before i ever thought about it...but i have handled them and couldn't tell much difference from the PQ but no i have not fished them

There isn't a rod at that price point better. Not to be a jerk but if you couldn't notice any difference between the PQ and the Elite, I'll have to ignore you opinion on this one.

The Elite is 'Clearly' more sensitive and much lighter just from an in store inspection.

[Jake.]

There isn't a rod at that price point better.

Which rods at the $200 price point have you fished other than the BPS Elite?

[SWMIBASSER]

There isn't a rod at that price point better.

Which rods at the $200 price point have you fished other than the BPS Elite?

Kistler Helium, Carrot Stix Gold, and G Loomis.

Only ones I fish regularly of those are Loomis. The other two were for a hour or so to check them out when friends had them.

The Mossyback Loomis 7'1 MH jig rod I have weighs more by a good deal than the 7'6 MH Elite that I have. The 7'6 Elite is also MUCH better balanced.

Loomis rod sells for $45 more.

[Jake.]

There isn't a rod at that price point better.

Which rods at the $200 price point have you fished other than the BPS Elite?

Kistler Helium, Carrot Stix Gold, and G Loomis.

Only ones I fish regularly of those are Loomis. The other two were for a hour or so to check them out when friends had them.

The Mossyback Loomis 7'1 MH jig rod I have weighs more by a good deal than the 7'6 MH Elite that I have. The 7'6 Elite is also MUCH better balanced.

Loomis rod sells for $45 more.

There are several more brands and models at the $200 point that you haven't fished. Do you just "know" that the BPS Elite is better than all of them?

[SWMIBASSER]

There isn't a rod at that price point better.

Which rods at the $200 price point have you fished other than the BPS Elite?

Kistler Helium, Carrot Stix Gold, and G Loomis.

Only ones I fish regularly of those are Loomis. The other two were for a hour or so to check them out when friends had them.

The Mossyback Loomis 7'1 MH jig rod I have weighs more by a good deal than the 7'6 MH Elite that I have. The 7'6 Elite is also MUCH better balanced.

Loomis rod sells for $45 more.

There are several more brands and models at the $200 point that you haven't fished. Do you just "know" that the BPS Elite is better than all of them?

Yes.

[Glenn]

That's a troll if I ever saw one.

C'mon man.  Be real. 

If you like a particular type/brand of something, then please say so and state why.  But to do so in the context of knocking the competition doesn't provide much info nor credibility.

I encourage you to speak about the positive experiences and attributes of the things you like. But please refrain from painting competing brands in a negative light.  That's a drag, and only upsets people, not help them.

[Incheon Basser]

I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

UH I think if i was going to spend 200 on a rod i would buy a Shimano Cumara way before i ever thought about a jm elite... sic guides lifetime warranty, and super hard to beat at any price point... no if the jm elite went on sale for like 100 bucks i would think about it...

So you have not fished with one I take it?

No I have not due to the fact as i stated before. I would not spend 200$ on a BPS rod or reel... there are about 10 rods i would buy before i ever thought about it...but i have handled them and couldn't tell much difference from the PQ but no i have not fished them

There isn't a rod at that price point better. Not to be a jerk but if you couldn't notice any difference between the PQ and the Elite, I'll have to ignore you opinion on this one.

The Elite is 'Clearly' more sensitive and much lighter just from an in store inspection.

here is a review from some stranger off of the bass pro web site... oh and sorry i didn't know you where a fishing rod expert who can throw out others thoughts like yesterdays trash..Best Rod I've Owned, August 26, 2009

By CrackCorn17 from Oklahoma City  (read all my reviews)

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Advantages:

Ease of use, Performs well, Quality, Style/Design

"I just purchased this rod after having my Johnnie Morrie Elite Series rod snap in half on me. I absolutely love this rod. It is a lot more sensitive than my old rod and i love the fact that it has a split grip on it. It took me a little while to get used to it because i had never messed with a rod like it but once i got used to it i love it. I also love that when u hold the rod ur hand is on the blank which makes it veryy sensitive. It is a little pricey but i definetely think its worth the money."

What is your favorite type of fishing?: Freshwater

How many times a month do you fish on average?: 5+

Do you own a boat?: No

Would you recommend this product as a gift?: Yes

[SWMIBASSER]

Actually friend, you are the one automatically discounting a great rod because of the brand it is. Based on zero prior experience with that rod.

Have I fished all 200 dollar rods? No. But I have fished the Elite, and a few others.

Yet your more qualified to trash "any bass pro rod over 100 dollars" even though you have never used the rod.

As for any review....You should know without anyone having to point it out that one or even a few reviews are meaningless. Overall trends in reviews are where meaningful info is gathered.

[Glenn]

Well guys, if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.  Personally, I don't give a rip who's "more qualified" than the other, or who's "right" or who's "wrong".  I suspect it doesn't matter to anyone else either.  So let's drop it and move on.

Thank you.

[mctech]

i picked one up and looked at it the other day at bps.very light and felt pretty good. for a hundred bucks seemed very nice. matched with a pq reel bet it would be a good low budget outfit.

[Fat-G]

Really guys? We all have our preferences. I personally have never fished a rod over $50, so I wouldn't know.

[RWSCHMITZ]

VERY COOL ROD FOR THE $$$$$

[Big Bait Fishing]

try this rod , i would buy it over a bps rod , actually if some one gave me either one or the other , i would take this okuma !! it has premium components , IM-8 blank , ACS reel seat , ALPS guides , cork split-grips and Okuma's life time warranty at only $90.00 it is a steal.......... 

[fishntime]

Just got home from BPS, and have to say that this rod looks nice and very light but, it is very tip heavy.   If this rod were to go on sale for say $59.99 I would buy one.  Otherwise I would just buy another Bucoo at this price point. 8-)

[Incheon Basser]

Just got home from BPS, and have to say that this rod looks nice and very light but, it is very tip heavy. If this rod were to go on sale for say $59.99 I would buy one. Otherwise I would just buy another Bucoo at this price point. 8-)

Careful... I said the same thing and got jumped on by some one for it....

[Incheon Basser]

Actually friend, you are the one automatically discounting a great rod because of the brand it is. Based on zero prior experience with that rod.

Have I fished all 200 dollar rods? No. But I have fished the Elite, and a few others.

Yet your more qualified to trash "any bass pro rod over 100 dollars" even though you have never used the rod.

As for any review....You should know without anyone having to point it out that one or even a few reviews are meaningless. Overall trends in reviews are where meaningful info is gathered.

I didn't trash them... I said if i had 200 bucks to spend i would buy something else before i bought a BPS rod  I never said they were trash....

[awcGA]

I like rods from BPS and have owned several and never had a complaint with any of them. I always buy them when they are on sale and think I got a great deal. If the other rod companies would offer their rods 40 to 50% off a couple times during the year like BPS does I would try them out. I fish for relaxation and fun so I do not need the top of the line equipment.

[Paul Roberts]

I like rods from BPS and have owned several and never had a complaint with any of them. I always buy them when they are on sale and think I got a great deal. If the other rod companies would offer their rods 40 to 50% off a couple times during the year like BPS does I would try them out. I fish for relaxation and fun so I do not need the top of the line equipment.

I don't own any BPS rods, but I've had rods from many makers and prices that I liked. There are so many good rods out there over a wide price range. But if I had $200 to spend (and have) I would be apt to choose a name rod. $200 is an investment in my mind. $40 is just a rod -and there are decent sticks out there at the low end.

[xfire]

I held one the rods too but not my personal preference, I like extremes, I think whatever rod you can afford or like is the one you should buy and get out on the water because after all the rod doesn't catch the fish .

[Georgia Jeff]

the new carbon lite rods seem very nice.  I held one this weekend.  They are very light, just a tad heavier than the Johnny Morris Elites.  They are a little tip heavy due to the light weight split grips.  The foam grips are not like the old spongy foam grips on cheap rods.  It is super hard and almost rubbery feeling.  I hate foam grips but wuoldn't hesitate to fish one of these. 

As to the Johnny Morris argument above, one of the benefits of the JM elites is that you get recoil guides and a great blank for about $169 on sale whereas a Loomis with recoil guides runs about $350.

[catchnm]

I would like to ask if there are any Vendetta owners who have also handled one of these new Carbonlite rods and could offer an objective comparison of the two?