X-fast tips....

[midnighthrasher]

Just wondering in what situation xfast tips are usefull or needed????

[Carrington]

i use one for finese fishing

[b.Lee]

I second that nomination

[Raul]

"Needed" ---> no

Useful ---> jigs, soft plastics, spinnerbaits.

[midnighthrasher]

Does it change anything for hooksets??? Harder or easier to set the hook??? Someone told me you have to be a lot faster to set than with a fast tip.

[Raul]

Does it change anything for hooksets??? Harder or easier to set the hook??? Someone told me you have to be a lot faster to set than with a fast tip.

That 's exactly the idea, the hook point reaches the point of entry in the tissue faster in an extra fast tip that it does with a fast tip, also, it reduces the ammount of energy necessary to set the hook because the rod is stiffer at the the tip and has to bend less.

Now, how faster it is ? miliseconds

How less energy is needed ? a few newtons

But, as usual it depends, there are days when a bass hits a bait and literally munches on it, on days like those it makes no difference if you have a fast tip over an extra fast, and there are days when bass barely mouths the bait and spits it right away, on days like those the extra fast tip helps you to hook the fish before it spits the bait.

[midnighthrasher]

Does it change anything for hooksets??? Harder or easier to set the hook??? Someone told me you have to be a lot faster to set than with a fast tip.

That 's exactly the idea, the hook point reaches the point of entry in the tissue faster in an extra fast tip that it does with a fast tip, also, it reduces the ammount of energy necessary to set the hook because the rod is stiffer at the the tip and has to bend less.

Now, how faster it is ? miliseconds

How less energy is needed ? a few newtons

But, as usual it depends, there are days when a bass hits a bait and literally munches on it, on days like those it makes no difference if you have a fast tip over an extra fast, and there are days when bass barely mouths the bait and spits it right away, on days like those the extra fast tip helps you to hook the fish before it spits the bait.

so for finess fishing extra fast would have added bonuses over fast. What about with spinnerbaits and buzzbaits?

[Raul]

What about with spinnerbaits and buzzbaits?

Well, with spinnerbaits and buzzbaits and jigs the problem is the hook itself, those kind of baits have thick gauge wire hooks, they need more energy to penetrate the tissue, if the tip bends faster that means that the full power ( backbone ) of the rod blank kicks in faster and drives in the hook literally causing the fish to impale itself on the hook.

[SWMIBASSER]

Does it change anything for hooksets??? Harder or easier to set the hook??? Someone told me you have to be a lot faster to set than with a fast tip.

That 's exactly the idea, the hook point reaches the point of entry in the tissue faster in an extra fast tip that it does with a fast tip, also, it reduces the ammount of energy necessary to set the hook because the rod is stiffer at the the tip and has to bend less.

Now, how faster it is ? miliseconds

How less energy is needed ? a few newtons

But, as usual it depends, there are days when a bass hits a bait and literally munches on it, on days like those it makes no difference if you have a fast tip over an extra fast, and there are days when bass barely mouths the bait and spits it right away, on days like those the extra fast tip helps you to hook the fish before it spits the bait.

so for finess fishing extra fast would have added bonuses over fast. What about with spinnerbaits and buzzbaits?

A little slower tip can be beneficial in finesse applications...Simply because the line used is usually light, and a softer rod will help protect the lighter line from breakage.

[tyrius.]

so for finess fishing extra fast would have added bonuses over fast. What about with spinnerbaits and buzzbaits?

A little slower tip can be beneficial in finesse applications...Simply because the line used is usually light, and a softer rod will help protect the lighter line from breakage.

That's power and not action.  An extra fast tip on a M or ML rod is still something that is a good thing and the lower power rating will better suit the lighter line. 

[Catt]

Finesse is a technique your lure or line

[Tin]

It all depends on the brand of rod. An extra fast Loomis is completely different to a extra fast Shimano imo. For example I will use the Loomis extra fast for throwing a 3/8 or 1/2 oz spinnerbait at a shoreline but use the Shimano extra fast for drop-shotting. Completely different rod actions.