I guess Quantum deserves it rep..

[Chaz Hickcox]

Ok, so I was proven wrong. Da** Chinese cheap labor. :'(  But it's still a home grown company.

[Chaz Hickcox]

Ok, so I have learned something here.  Quantum, a subsidiary of Zebco which is owned by the A.C. Bradley Co. based out of Georgia.  As their actual assembly plants are in China among other parts of the world where labor is cheap, their actual production and testing is American.  So, as an American did not make my Quantum reels, the money paid into Quantum will in fact contribute to our American economy.

[SirSnookalot]

Ok, so I have learned something here. Quantum, a subsidiary of Zebco which is owned by the A.C. Bradley Co. based out of Georgia. As their actual assembly plants are in China among other parts of the world where labor is cheap, their actual production and testing is American. So, as an American did not make my Quantum reels, the money paid into Quantum will in fact contribute to our American economy.

One may make the same claim to Honda, Toyota and others for having American plants employing American workers, putting money into the American  economy.

At one time the labor was cheap here in the U.S., until workers got organized, we had sweat shops here.  Just a matter of time until the Chinese outsource their labor as their middle class grows and can no longer afford to pay higher wages.

[Grey Wolf]

Ok, so I have learned something here. Quantum, a subsidiary of Zebco which is owned by the A.C. Bradley Co. based out of Georgia. As their actual assembly plants are in China among other parts of the world where labor is cheap, their actual production and testing is American. So, as an American did not make my Quantum reels, the money paid into Quantum will in fact contribute to our American economy.

Almost all companies are world wide now and they have their products produced/assembled where they can get it made cheaper.

That old "made in america" slogan doesn't mean much anymore.

[Stasher1]

A long problem with Quantum reels isn't so much that the finish fades or overly wears, it's that the finish begins flaking badly or peeling off the reel and looks more like a cancer, in an unusually short period of time as compared to other reel brands. Otherwise they're a competent reel though I think they're overpriced.

x2

I wouldn't mind trying the new Tour Edition PT with the carbon handle, but I can't bring myself to shell out that kind of money when I can get a Curado or Patriarch for less.

[KYntucky Warmouth]

A long problem with Quantum reels isn't so much that the finish fades or overly wears, it's that the finish begins flaking badly or peeling off the reel and looks more like a cancer, in an unusually short period of time as compared to other reel brands. Otherwise they're a competent reel though I think they're overpriced.

x2

I wouldn't mind trying the new Tour Edition PT with the carbon handle, but I can't bring myself to shell out that kind of money when I can get a Curado or Patriarch for less.

Not sure about the Tour but the new Energy is a dandy little reel and they got rid of the shiny finish on it. You are right, the Curado's and Patriarchs make it hard to go further in reel buying but that's probably a good thing

[Boogey Man]

The Catalyst (baitcaster) I bought was NIB for $100 so I thougth what the heck. I've used it twice so far and wouldn't mind having more. With any new product, durability remains to be seen, but it casts great, it's light weight, and palms well. I've got it on a 6' 4" Team All Star spinnerbait rod and have mostly used it for 3/16 to 3/8 oz. spinnerbaits. Casting into 5-10 mph wind I had no backlashes with the ACS set on the first setting (two brakes).

[Pantera61]

Quantum had it's day.

[bassdocktor]

Quantum products are alot better than most people on here will give them credit for. I've had/have multiple reels and so does my dad. I've also got 2 of their rods. I have yet to have a problem with any of them. I just don't get why everyone jumps onthe bash Quantum bandwagon. I understand being upset that a reel breaks but why say that everything is bad?

What can I compare it to? I've Shimano, Diawa, and BPS reels and rods. The only one of those I've had a problem with was the BPS branded stuff.

Yes I do agree you can get better reels for the price but when they decided to run a clearance on them and you get a $229 reel for $100 its pretty hard to beat.

[ChiCityBasser]

I have several Quantum reels and haven't had a problem out of any of them after a couple years usage. I have the Accurist PT and it is working just fine and I also have last years Energy and not a problem out it either. On the spinning side I have the older Gray Catalyst PTI-A, a Kinetic PTI-B and Catalyst PTI-B(hasn't seen water yet) but for the reels that have they have performed great. I also have a used Blue Quantum Incyte(don't know what year it was produced)but it also works great.  I also have a Shimano Sahara(spinning), a Cabelas Prodigy(BC), a BPS Viper(spinning), Rainbow BM1000(spinning) and  Pflueger Trion(Spinning) to compare them against and love the way my Quantums perform. Next up for me is either the Catalyst or Energy (BC) with a Quantum rod.

[Infidel.]

Otherwise they're a competent reel though I think they're overpriced.

 

Hey, they have to cut those checks to the big names some how.  I can't think of another manufacture with a pro staff like Quantum's.  Then you have companies like Loomis and St. Croix that spend their money on making great products instead of advertising. 

[Pantera61]

Otherwise they're a competent reel though I think they're overpriced.

Hey, they have to cut those checks to the big names some how. I can't think of another manufacture with a pro staff like Quantum's. Then you have companies like Loomis and St. Croix that spend their money on making great products instead of advertising.

What advancements has Loomis been part of in the past 10 years, Recoil guides?

[MattinOK]

I didn't expect to open such a can of worms. I only needed to rant for a minute, and look what happened!

[Primus]

In response to Pantera61, Loomis is not a company that emphasizes gimmick over substance. I'm glad they put their emphasis on great blanks like the GLX & IMX with the right action, I personally like the old school cork that they still use. Loomis in my opinion don't need to change a thing, and to the best of my knowledge they are still made in the USA.

[Pantera61]

In response to Pantera61, Loomis is not a company that emphasizes gimmick over substance. I'm glad they put their emphasis on great blanks like the GLX & IMX with the right action, I personally like the old school cork that they still use. Loomis in my opinion don't need to change a thing, and to the best of my knowledge they are still made in the USA.

Using technology to improve performance is not gimmickry.  To believe GLoomis is the pinnacle of rod craft is folly.

[roadwarrior]

Well, it seems that G.Loomis is the standard by

which all other quality rods are compared. It's

always "almost as good"; "as good as" or "better

than" a Loomis.

It seems to me the only issues are "price" and

"value". Price can be addressed as it has been

on this and other threads. Value is subjective.

:

[Grey Wolf]

In response to Pantera61, Loomis is not a company that emphasizes gimmick over substance. I'm glad they put their emphasis on great blanks like the GLX & IMX with the right action, I personally like the old school cork that they still use. Loomis in my opinion don't need to change a thing, and to the best of my knowledge they are still made in the USA.

Using technology to improve performance is not gimmickry. To believe GLoomis is the pinnacle of rod craft is folly.

Fill us in please. Who is at the pinnacle if  Loomis isn't ?

[Pantera61]

In response to Pantera61, Loomis is not a company that emphasizes gimmick over substance. I'm glad they put their emphasis on great blanks like the GLX & IMX with the right action, I personally like the old school cork that they still use. Loomis in my opinion don't need to change a thing, and to the best of my knowledge they are still made in the USA.

Using technology to improve performance is not gimmickry. To believe GLoomis is the pinnacle of rod craft is folly.

Fill us in please. Who is at the pinnacle if Loomis isn't ?

A quick list might include:  Megabass, Evergreen, UFM, GanCraft, Daiwa Japan, Deps

[Grey Wolf]

I figured that's what your answer was going to be.

How many do you own and how are they better ?

[Pantera61]

I figured that's what your answer was going to be.

How many do you own and how are they better ?

A significant number of each of Megabass, Evergreen and Daiwa Japan for quite a few applications.  UFM is a bit difficult to acquire, although if I really wanted to I could use family connections in Japan.  Deps and GanCraft, I really couldn't tell you why I haven't owned any.

Why are they superior?  Components, ergonomics, blank properties, design, balance, more to follow ...

[retiredbosn]

As far as quantum goes, I have three rods, and several reels.  I have an old snapshot that I've had for at least 15 years, never been cleaned or serviced and works great.  I've never understood why so many people are down on quantums.  Besides that they routinely go on sale for extraordinary prices, the same thing can not be said for other companies.

[ChiCityBasser]

Loomis may be the pinnacle of rods as some have said but I have never owned one so I can't say. The pinnacle for me in rods is my Cabelas XML and XMLTi.

As far as the reels go Quantum is the pinnacle for me and yes I know they get a bad wrap here but my Quantum Kinetic is every bit as smooth as my Shimano Sahara. I have the New Catalyst PTI-B spinning reel and it was every bit as smooth as the Shimano Saros I was comparing it with. I haven't fished the Catalyst but I have fished both the Sahara and Kinetic for the last year and the Kinetic is every bit as good. No knock on Shimano or any other brand but I like what works for me and works well.

[SirSnookalot]

I've never understood why so many people are down on quantums.

It's not the reel ( Quantum) that's bad, it's the opinion people have of their own equipment raising to levels of fantasy, so much of it contributed to a notion of being in a club of higher status.........my cabo performs as well as any other brand and I own many of them. I'm not saying I favor my quantum over another, but also not saying I favor others over the quantum.  The irony is that many that are down on a certain brand never owned or used one.

[J Francho]

I've never understood why so many people are down on quantums.

I've owned four Quantum spinning reels and three baitcasters.  Reels in the $120 to $150 range.  They all suffered some type of failure.  I base my opinion on personal experience.

[roadwarrior]

I'm sure we have some members that work at

Cabela's and Bass Pro. I wish they would chime

in. Although they might not want to state this on

an open forum, I suspect the reels most often

returned are Quantum. In-house brands are probably

a close second, or may even lead.

I also suspect that the vast majority of the lower

end reels, especially Zebco/Quantum, are purchased

by guys that rarely fish. Durability isn't much of an issue

if you only fish two or three hours on a summer vacation.