line replacement

[6mile]

I loved Spiderwire Fusion. The "new improved" was junk ...  I bought up all of the original I could find and am now running out..  I am 100% spinner guy, pitching trick worms..   Need suggestions on something close to the Fusion.. Thanks....

[Big Bait Fishing]

for spinnig rods i use 6 lb. P-LINE CXX , very strong and managable . i only use the moss green color . their 6 lb. line is as strong as most brands 10-12 lb. line ...........

[Wayne P.]

What pound test are you seeking? I may have what you want.

CXX is best used for backing, not fishing.

[roadwarrior]

CXX is best used for backing, not fishing.

Now that's funny!

I guess we all have our favorites.

[supreme]

Yo Z & Gamma only on spinning

[RandySBreth]

Probably the closest thing you'll find to Fusion now is Fireline. I have several bulk spools of Fusion (Bass Pro outlet store is my friend) but Fireline is much, much better than Fusion ever was.

Doesn't fray and bleed color as bad, and holds up better.

[6mile]

What pound test are you seeking? I may have what you want.

CXX is best used for backing, not fishing.

I use 10 or 12lb. test...

[6mile]

Probably the closest thing you'll find to Fusion now is Fireline. I have several bulk spools of Fusion (Bass Pro outlet store is my friend) but Fireline is much, much better than Fusion ever was.

Doesn't fray and bleed color as bad, and holds up better.

Fireline is my 2nd choice right now.. Have to fish it  new line couple hours to soften it but I have found it bleeds.. The coating on Fusion would come off where the bass would rub it with lips so re-tying was an after most every fish thing.. That coating on the "improved would sluff off anyplace and had to respool after every trip..

[islandbass]

I used to use fusion too before they ran out. Fireline might be a good option, but if color has to be the same, the spiderwire's stealth is your closest bet.

You should get the same performance out of stealth as you do with fusion. They will be comparable.

If you wish to venture away from Spiderwire, then its powerpro. Just telling you from personal experience.

The plus of any of these lines over fusion is that you won't get the fuzzy/false fraying or shedding that fusion does for some reason.

[6mile]

I used to use fusion too before they ran out. Fireline might be a good option, but if color has to be the same, the spiderwire's stealth is your closest bet.

You should get the same performance out of stealth as you do with fusion. They will be comparable.

If you wish to venture away from Spiderwire, then its powerpro. Just telling you from personal experience.

The plus of any of these lines over fusion is that you won't get the fuzzy/false fraying or shedding that fusion does for some reason.

I tried Power Pro.It seemed to soak up some water and sink.. As you know, when wacky rigging, the like has to float.. Trying to stay away from the braids but hate mono.  So will probably end up with Firewire..

[J Francho]

As you know, when wacky rigging, the line has to float

Not sure what the advantage is there.

[Wayne P.]

I don't see any advantage either, if I don't use an internal weight in the worm, I add a 20# fluorocarbon leader for weight to make braid sink when I wacky rig.

6mile, do you reverse your line to get longer life and do you use a backing to get more reel fills per line spool?

[6mile]

I don't see any advantage either, if I don't use an internal weight in the worm, I add a 20# fluorocarbon leader for weight to make braid sink when I wacky rig.

6mile, do you reverse your line to get longer life and do you use a backing to get more reel fills per line spool?

Yes I use backing (except on the 1000 reel) and I also reverse it.. That is why my Fusion supply has lasted for 4 years..

When I pitch (usually underhanded) I then immediately point the rod tip right back at the spot the worm hit.That leaves the line laying on top of the water.  As the worm sinks I just watch the floating line for the tell tale twitch..  I was taught you had to fish wacky with a loose line..  It sure works for me.. It is that vertical drop without the swinging arch of a tight line..  I fish light compared to most Fl. guys.  Med rod, 6 ft. 1000 or 1500 reel and 10 lb line..  Yes I lose some good fish but  usually get my share of 8# each year..  Best is a 12#14 oz.  on the rig mentioned above...

[Wayne P.]

6mile, PM sent

[6mile]

Thanks Wayne,  Did you get mo PM ?? I'm not good with these computers...

[islandbass]

I used to use fusion too before they ran out. Fireline might be a good option, but if color has to be the same, the spiderwire's stealth is your closest bet.

You should get the same performance out of stealth as you do with fusion. They will be comparable.

If you wish to venture away from Spiderwire, then its powerpro. Just telling you from personal experience.

The plus of any of these lines over fusion is that you won't get the fuzzy/false fraying or shedding that fusion does for some reason.

I tried Power Pro.It seemed to soak up some water and sink.. As you know, when wacky rigging, the like has to float.. Trying to stay away from the braids but hate mono. So will probably end up with Firewire..

You might have a slight disconnect with perception and actuality. Any absorbtion of water by mono is going to be practically nil at best and negligible at worst.  No other lines outside of ppro or stealth or other braids is going to give you as close a feel to fusion as you are desiring. I suppose trying fireline couldn't hurt.  8-)

I would like to know if you could elaborate on why the line has to float for wacky rigging. You've really piqued my curiosity so please explain. ;D

If it has to do with better see the line on the surface, then mono or braid are your best bets.

[6mile]

It is not so much seeing the line as it is fishing a totally loose line.. I was taught to pitch it out , drop the rod tip and let the line lie on top of the water. That assures the worm will drop straight down with no pendlum like swing.. Sometimes the trick worm will shoot off to one side or the other before making it's vertical descent... I NEVER use a leader or swivell on the line.. Never peg a worm with a nail. I tie directly to the hook.. Go as light as I can.. Even use a straight, light wire hook. Another important thing ( to me) is after replacing a worm I always dropit over the side and watch to see if the head and tail wiggle.. If not, re hook it.. Some worms never wiggle. I save them for the rare times I Texas rig..

I have so much luck I really believe the pro's wacky rig when no one is looking and put the fancy spinner and crank baits on when some one is looking....

[islandbass]

6,

Thanks for your explanation. That really painted a great picture for me.

Most of my wacky rig success comes off of the drop shot with the bait wacky hooked vs. nose hooked.

Fish caught truly wacky rigged, ie, not on the drop shot, my catches have been far a few between. The next time I fish something wacky style, I am going to keep those thoughts in mind. 8-)

[6mile]

Islandbass,

Everyday is a little different, some days they will take the wacky rigged worm soon after it hits the water.  Other days they want it to lie on the bottom for a bit (dead sticking) . Most of the time it is somewhere in between..  I want the worm to stay in that strike zone as long as possible so go light .. Sometimes use a finesse worm..  Only use Zoom trick worms..

[Wayne P.]

6mile, yes I did. As soon as the streets are plowed I'll send them. We got over 22" of snow---- still digging out.

[Wayne P.]

I took this picture yesterday about 1:30 PM and it snowed until after 7:00PM. The yard stick is on the hood of one of my trucks.

[rubba bubba]

I also liked Spiderwire fusion and when it was no longer sold I switched to Fireline Crystal. I like it in 14lbs or less; 8 for spinning. It's much like the old fusion.

Anything bigger and the line diameter starts getting noticeably larger than braid for the same weight (i.e. the 20lbs fusion is big). Then I switch to Suffix; it's much softer than Powerpro after it's been broken in.

[Hammer 4]

You guys might want to look at the Diawa Samuri braid..very soft compared to other braids. The 55# is the same as 12# mono. 40# is the same as 8# mono.

[6mile]

You fellows in Va.are not used to that much snow..Old Forge,N.Y...http://www.oldforge.net/pointpark/

[Big Bait Fishing]

What pound test are you seeking? I may have what you want.

CXX is best used for backing, not fishing.

i only use CXX in the lower # tests (4# and 6#) any thing above those # test line are just ridiculus to deal with !!!!