Simp Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 Ok so I have a gold model carrot stick and the top line guide I noticed today has several bad groves. They look like they could easily cause serious line issues. I've read about the issue a few times now from others. Called Tackle Wharehouse and they said they would warranty it for me but honestly I don't want to have the same issue. I've thought about replaceing the line guide with a quality Fuji guide. Does anybody have any info on how to replace them yourself and what not. BTW here is a pick of my rod guide. Quote
Super User Micro Posted October 31, 2009 Super User Posted October 31, 2009 Wow, that's really bad! Looks like some one scraped it on concrete. Braid did that? I can't imagine mono/fluoro did that. I'd definitely exercise the warranty, the sell the replacement. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted October 31, 2009 Super User Posted October 31, 2009 I had heard their guides sucked. Take a lighter and carefully melt the glue ,pop the guide off and replace. Warning it's risky if you haven'y done it before. You might be better off having it repaired by a pro. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted October 31, 2009 Super User Posted October 31, 2009 get it replaced and sell it.then buy a bps johnny morris signature series with top of the line fuji titanium framed sic guides.they are the best guides made imho. Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted November 1, 2009 Super User Posted November 1, 2009 I have a Gold and haven't had any problems with it but that looks pretty bad Quote
Simp Posted November 1, 2009 Author Posted November 1, 2009 Yep this thing has only had Fluro on it the entire time I've had it. It's very clear it's from the line and not from mis use. I've always loved the rod except for the guides. I fish a crap ton and this rod is in my hands most of the time. The weight and sensitivity has IMHO been fantastic. So if I can safely replace the guide that's the path I'd like to take. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted November 1, 2009 Super User Posted November 1, 2009 Tip Top is probably an Aluminum Oxide shock ring. Should have had either an Alconite upto a Sic tip top there. You won't find a tackle shop that doesn't have an inhouse rod builder try to replace the guides. You will need to take and find a rod builder in your area that can do the replacement work for you, if you intend on replaceing all of the guides. If your replacing just the tip top you can go here for the info on the how to.... http://www.rod-crafting.com/resource/articles/rod-tip-repair.html Good Luck & Tight Lines!!!! Quote
Super User flechero Posted November 2, 2009 Super User Posted November 2, 2009 Dang, I've seen a number of grooved tips but I've never seen one quite like that! Quote
Super User RoLo Posted November 2, 2009 Super User Posted November 2, 2009 Looking at the insert and the extent of erosion, that picture looks eerily similar to a stainless-steel insert In any case, the Gold Model Carrot Stick just made my Blackball List. With a micrometer and some ferrule cement, you can easily replace it with a guide having a silicon carbide insert (else it will fray your line). Roger Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 2, 2009 Super User Posted November 2, 2009 Geez...Seems ridiculous to me. This is a very popular pricing point. To have crappy components is inexcusable. > Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted November 5, 2009 Super User Posted November 5, 2009 I checked mine yesterday and am starting to see the grooves, not quit as bad as yours but they are starting. I haven't noticed an effect on the line, the grooves are pretty smooth, I've only used 3 lines on it: 10lb Fluoro-clear, 10lb Suffix Deep Crank, and 12lb Yo-Zuri Hybrid. I have to agree with Roadwarrior that for a rod in that price range, this kind of probablem is unacceptable. I really like my Gold Carrot Stix but for $200 the guides should last longer than a season. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted November 5, 2009 Super User Posted November 5, 2009 Frankly, I'm disgusted. Quote
Stasher1 Posted November 5, 2009 Posted November 5, 2009 Geez...Seems ridiculous to me. This is a very popular pricing point. To have crappy components is inexcusable. > Many people have said this this since they came out, but folks didn't want to hear it. Quote
daviscw Posted November 5, 2009 Posted November 5, 2009 Should have bought an LTX! ;D My guides are perfect! Quote
steezy Posted November 5, 2009 Posted November 5, 2009 I don't see anything like that on Steez or GLX rods. Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted November 5, 2009 Super User Posted November 5, 2009 Should have bought an LTX! ;DMy guides are perfect! Got one....the Gold blows is out of the water in almost every aspect....except the guides on my LTX are still good.... > Quote
Super User flechero Posted November 6, 2009 Super User Posted November 6, 2009 That is an extreme case and normally not even a cheap guide would groove out so badly... chalk it up to defective guide. I'd just pretend that I knocked out an insert and spend $2 for an alconite replcement- problem solved. Quote
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