Super User retiredbosn Posted October 19, 2009 Super User Posted October 19, 2009 I have a spinning rod that I like, but I despise that it is two piece. Been thinking about supergluing the ends together, and adverse reasons why I shouldn't? Quote
Super User islandbass Posted October 19, 2009 Super User Posted October 19, 2009 Unless you can foresee that you will never need to split them ever again, then yes. Personally, I wouldn't. Â I use 2 piece rods out of necessity for the unexpected, just in case fishing trips and they are kept in the trunk. Â I don't risk exposing them for would be thieves with the back seat down during the week. That's just asking for trouble. Heck, I don't even put loomis stickers or whatever fishing ads on my car. Coming from the island of thieves, that would be like displaying a neon light saying, "Break into this car. Chances are that there is a lot of fishing gear you can pawn to satiate your drug fix." Yes, thieves can break into any car, but they have to crack the nut to see in mine instead without the benefit of an invitation. And if they stole my rods, shoot. They're the two piece disposable junkers anyway. My true bass rods, the one pieces come out on the weekend if I get the chance to fish and there outings are planned. Wow. I went off on a tangent. Â Bottom line, I personally won't permanently attach them. This is actually a bait monkey excuse to get a rod that fills its niche that is one piece. ;D Quote
NewAngler Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 When I was younger I saw one of my cousins do the exact thing. I, too, hate 2 piece-ers. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted October 20, 2009 Super User Posted October 20, 2009 I have a 2 pc Clarus spinning rod, 7' ml..have caught a few 3 lb bass with it so far..I'm not a big fan of 2 pc rods, but this one seems to work pretty decent...storage isn't an issue, so I may glue mine too. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 20, 2009 Super User Posted October 20, 2009 I see no benefit in permanently attaching both ends, there may be times when 2 pieces may desired. Â A good 2 pc rod will perform as well as 1 pc and should not come apart when in use. Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 All I have are 2 pc rods for the ease of transport and don't really have the problem of them coming apart while fishing. If you can transport it with ease and a 1 pc is your preference I say "Go for it" and glue it together. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted October 20, 2009 Author Super User Posted October 20, 2009 I have had them all come apart, I had purchased a brand new Shimano rod, don't remember the name, anyway, I was snagged on the bottom, and I was using the rod to break the line. Â When the line snapped, the top of the rod went flying off, and now lies on the bottom of the lake! Â I have quantums, shimanos, and shakespeare all come apart just from fishing. Â Should I use rod tip glue or super glue. Â I don't want to use a thick flexible glue as I am afraid of ruining the sensitivity. Â Quote
NewAngler Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 I've never done this, but would assume you couldn't go wrong with a rod tip glue. That doesn't seem to ruin any sensativity. On thw other ide, super glue, or crazy glue isn't thick at all. Gorilla glue might be something to look into, a little thicker but a hell of a hold. Quote
The Rooster Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 A friend of mine done this. He used super glue and it's held together now for years since. Only thing he did wrong was get the line guides misaligned when he done it so the top half is off compared to the bottom, but he doesn't care and it does work so he still uses it. If you do it and use super glue, I'd recommend the super glue gel instead of just regular super glue. It's a little slower to cure, you have a few seconds of working time so you get the line guides lined up. Regular super glue runs like water and dries nearly instantly once the two pieces are touched together though. That could be messy. Â Krazy glue gel would be even better than super glue gel. Personally though, all of my two piece rods never come apart on me, I have had them together for years now to the point that sometimes I forget they are two piece rods. I jamb them together so tight that on occasion when I have had to take one apart I was unable to do it alone, had to play tug of war with my wife to get it apart, and sent her flying backwards when it finally popped. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted October 20, 2009 Super User Posted October 20, 2009 2pc. rod do have their place... I wouldn't glue it up, just get the same rod in 1pc. If your 2pc rods are coming apart, then try a little paraffin on the male side, this should cause a good suction between the 2pcs and keep them together.... Tight Lines!!! Quote
OnthePotomac Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 Something is terribly wrong with this picture. Â I have two 2-pc Bionic Blades I have fished with for 8 years and have never had them come apart while fishing. Â Quote
J-B Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 I jamb them together so tight that on occasion when I have had to take one apart I was unable to do it alone. X2 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted October 20, 2009 Super User Posted October 20, 2009 Just my 3 cents...never use the rod to break off a snagged lure. Grab the line in front of the rod..make sure there is NO tension on the rod, and pull the line...heck..sometimes you even get the lure back.. Never had my Clarus come apart. After reading more on this subject, I'm gonna leave it alone. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 20, 2009 Super User Posted October 20, 2009 Grab the line in front of the rod.. Absolutely ! Â The line and lure pull free a lot easier too. I make a point of opening my bail or on a conventional putting in free spool to take all the tension of the rod tip. Â I learned my lesson by a few broken tips. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted October 20, 2009 Super User Posted October 20, 2009 Grab the line in front of the rod.. Absolutely ! Â The line and lure pull free a lot easier too. I make a point of opening my bail or on a conventional putting in free spool to take all the tension of the rod tip. Â I learned my lesson by a few broken tips. 100% Â There ya go..! Â Never use the rod for anything except fish fighting. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted October 20, 2009 Super User Posted October 20, 2009 I have an 8'6" spinning rod for salmon and surf casting, and 2-6' light rods that are mostly used for crappie and bluegill, that are 2 piece and I like them just fine. I've never had any trouble with them coming apart and if there is any loss of sensitivity it is not noticeable. On a related note, I was window shopping on on Tackle warehouse's site and noticed that the Diawa Steeze 8' flipping rod was 2 piece; 665$ retail. Quote
RandySBreth Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 I fish with 2, 3, 4, and even 5 piece rods, both conventional and fly, and have never had one come apart when fishing. Either the rods are bad, or you're not getting them snugged up well enough when assembling them. I love multi-piece rods. How else are you going to take them on a trip where you can't haul one of those bazooka rod carriers you need for one piece rods? Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted October 22, 2009 Author Super User Posted October 22, 2009 I don't travel to fish, if I would I would take my boat. Â Due to my health I don't hike into areas to fish, I can't wade fish anymore, so I'm in a boat all the time. Â All I want to know is if there is a glue that won't harm the graphite that I can use to glue the pieces together. Â I have had several rods come apart, some during the cast, I've also had the eyes to twist around when working lures. Â I built a rod rack in the garage, so storage isn't a problem. Â So if any rod builders know of a glue I can use let me know. Â I know there has to be a glue to use, as rod blanks are really multipieces made into one piece, isn't that why there are there bands on the rods, where the rod changes diameter? Quote
bt fisherman Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 GO TO your local outdoor shop and go to the archery section and see if they have goat tuff and if they dont use super glue Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted October 22, 2009 Super User Posted October 22, 2009 I don't travel to fish, if I would I would take my boat. Due to my health I don't hike into areas to fish, I can't wade fish anymore, so I'm in a boat all the time. All I want to know is if there is a glue that won't harm the graphite that I can use to glue the pieces together. I have had several rods come apart, some during the cast, I've also had the eyes to twist around when working lures. I built a rod rack in the garage, so storage isn't a problem. So if any rod builders know of a glue I can use let me know. I know there has to be a glue to use, as rod blanks are really multipieces made into one piece, isn't that why there are there bands on the rods, where the rod changes diameter? It's hard to get a simle answer here sometimes especially if you get more than one page , people forget or don't start at the beginning to see what the question was about , they just pick it up from the last page instead of starting at the first page. Quote
NewAngler Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Bosn, I hate to add to the thread without an answer, but I'm sure guys like Flechero or Reel Mech will have an answer for you in a heartbeat. And it will be the perfect fit Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 23, 2009 Super User Posted October 23, 2009 Epoxy......... I also have an all purpose " fix all" bought at the dollar store, nothing comes apart with this stuff. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted October 23, 2009 Super User Posted October 23, 2009 The old remedy was beeswax to make them stick together better. Parafin makes em slicker, as I remember it. When you put it together, make about a quarter turn as you snug it down firmly. As I fish I check occasionally to make sure the rod is still tight as I fish. Quote
RandySBreth Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 I don't travel to fish, if I would I would take my boat. Due to my health I don't hike into areas to fish, I can't wade fish anymore, so I'm in a boat all the time. All I want to know is if there is a glue that won't harm the graphite that I can use to glue the pieces together. I have had several rods come apart, some during the cast, I've also had the eyes to twist around when working lures. I built a rod rack in the garage, so storage isn't a problem. So if any rod builders know of a glue I can use let me know. I know there has to be a glue to use, as rod blanks are really multipieces made into one piece, isn't that why there are there bands on the rods, where the rod changes diameter? I see now. I would use epoxy, and (VERY LIGHTLY) scuff the inside and outside of the ferrule (where the two pieces fit together) with sandpaper, then epoxy together. Most short (under 8') spinning and casting blanks that are one piece have the "bands' as you called them, they are just decorative. Quote
RandySBreth Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 I don't travel to fish, if I would I would take my boat. Due to my health I don't hike into areas to fish, I can't wade fish anymore, so I'm in a boat all the time. All I want to know is if there is a glue that won't harm the graphite that I can use to glue the pieces together. I have had several rods come apart, some during the cast, I've also had the eyes to twist around when working lures. I built a rod rack in the garage, so storage isn't a problem. So if any rod builders know of a glue I can use let me know. I know there has to be a glue to use, as rod blanks are really multipieces made into one piece, isn't that why there are there bands on the rods, where the rod changes diameter? I see now. I would use epoxy, and (VERY LIGHTLY) scuff the inside and outside of the ferrule (where the two pieces fit together) with sandpaper, then epoxy together. Most short (under 8') spinning and casting blanks that are one piece have the "bands' as you called them, they are just decorative. Quote
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