Any enthusiasts here??

[80pruf]

Just curious if there were any high end rod or reel enthusiasts here. I don't ever really seem to see any posts about any JDM rods or reels on here.  I have some interest in possibly picking up a high end rod (megabass, gan craft, evergreen, etc.) but I have to end up going to other sites to read up on them.  Anybody got any goodies?

[80pruf]

Dan thats exactly where I have spent most of my time today. Those guys have some gear that is absolutely mind blowing!

[Dan:]

They sure do...I can't even look at it. I know almost every USDM product available but when they start talking about JDM stuff they might as well be speaking a different language.

[Micro]

Bass Resource is about bass fishing.  

Tackle Tour is about tackle, catching anything with it is incidental.

[KYntucky Warmouth]

You hear some JDM reel talk around every now and then, not so much about rods though.  For me, no warranty is an issue with JDM rods more so than reels.  It's easy to slip up and damage or break a rod and with no backing, that's a huge loss.  I have a Daiwa Alphas 103 and with proper care the non warranty isn't really an issue.

[Dan:]

Bass Resource is about bass fishing.

Tackle Tour is about tackle, catching anything with it is incidental.

lol, that is a pretty good summation Rowland.

[Bassn Blvd]

You hear some JDM reel talk around every now and then, not so much about rods though. For me, no warranty is an issue with JDM rods more so than reels. It's easy to slip up and damage or break a rod and with no backing, that's a huge loss. I have a Daiwa Alphas 103 and with proper care the non warranty isn't really an issue.

Same goes for me too.  RedLineRobert is the only one I know who uses JDM rods on this site.

[dan1942]

Raul and Bronzeye have a lot of JDM Reels

[steezy]

For the price of some of those JDM reels and rods I couldn't imagine buying with no warrranty. Theres no way I would pay over $200 for a rod without a lifetime warranty. Its way too easy to break a rod.

[dan1942]

I agree with the rods.  I would be sick if I broke one!

[roadwarrior]

Mostly "enthusiasts", just at different levels!

8-)

[flechero]

I don't ever really seem to see any posts about any JDM rods or reels on here.

Surely you are kidding... or just don't spend much time here.  Yes there more JDM talk at TT but there are a number of threads (reels more than rods) here every week.

I don't recall you starting many though...  maybe you should start asking or talking about those that interest you.   :

[Pantera61]

For the price of some of those JDM reels and rods I couldn't imagine buying with no warrranty. Theres no way I would pay over $200 for a rod without a lifetime warranty. Its way too easy to break a rod.

Why would you expect a company to enable oafishness on anyone's part?

[Pantera61]

For the price of some of those JDM reels and rods I couldn't imagine buying with no warrranty. Theres no way I would pay over $200 for a rod without a lifetime warranty. Its way too easy to break a rod.

Why would you expect a company to enable oafishness on anyone's part?

More accurately, why should I have to pay more for an item to subsidize another individual's oafishness and the manufacture looks good?

[roadwarrior]

Maybe these reels aren't high enough up the ladder, but

I don't find the Metanium or my super tuned Scorpion to be

all that "special". To be more specific, comparable reels like

the domestic Chronarch and CH50MG seem just as refined

as the JDM counterparts.  

8-)

[steezy]

For the price of some of those JDM reels and rods I couldn't imagine buying with no warrranty. Theres no way I would pay over $200 for a rod without a lifetime warranty. Its way too easy to break a rod.

Why would you expect a company to enable oafishness on anyone's part?

More accurately, why should I have to pay more for an item to subsidize another individual's oafishness and the manufacture looks good?

I think the steez is pretty "refined".

oafishness = ??? :-?

[Incheon Basser]

I am but i like KDM stuff, we get alot of the same stuff as japan does plus stictly kdm stuff too

[Raul]

Anybody that purchases a 200+ dollars reel is an enthusiast, you can do almost the same with a less expensive reel.

Sometimes JDM is "better" in some aspects, sometimes is not.

What 's so special about JDM ?

Sometimes it 's because at certain time it 's "better" ( different ) ex: Scorpion 1000/1001 vs Curado 100B

Sometimes it 's because it 's limited edition ex: TDZ Custom, TDZ Type R, TDZ Type R+, TD itö, Alphas Itö

Sometimes it 's because it 's not available in domestic version ex: Liberto Pixy, Antares AR ( Calais 100A ) lefty, Speedmaster

Sometimes it 's because at one time there was no domestic version but later the domestic version appeared, ex: Scorpion 1000/1001 Mg vs Chronarch 50/51 Mg

But it doesn 't mean that you are less equipped with good quality domestic gear vs being equipped with JDM.

[J Francho]

For the price of some of those JDM reels and rods I couldn't imagine buying with no warrranty. Theres no way I would pay over $200 for a rod without a lifetime warranty. Its way too easy to break a rod.

Why would you expect a company to enable oafishness on anyone's part?

More accurately, why should I have to pay more for an item to subsidize another individual's oafishness and the manufacture looks good?

Those last 2 posts may have well have been Japanese, they make no sense in English

The rods I have , all have warranties, they are all specific as to what they cover, how and why does this effect you buying one?

Pantera is referring to certain manus that have a no hassle replacement plan.  There is no way that some of the replacement cost is not built in to the initial retail price.  By that, I mean that anyone that buys a rod with a lifetime no hassle replacement policy is also paying to replace others' broken rods.  This is different than a warranty for defective product.

[J Francho]

Anybody that purchases a 200+ dollars reel is an enthusiast, you can do almost the same with a less expensive reel.

Sometimes JDM is "better" in some aspects, sometimes is not.

What 's so special about JDM ?

Sometimes it 's because at certain time it 's "better" ( different ) ex: Scorpion 1000/1001 vs Curado 100B

Sometimes it 's because it 's limited edition ex: TDZ Custom, TDZ Type R, TDZ Type R+, TD itö, Alphas Itö

Sometimes it 's because it 's not available in domestic version ex: Liberto Pixy, Antares AR ( Calais 100A ) lefty, Speedmaster

Sometimes it 's because at one time there was no domestic version but later the domestic version appeared, ex: Scorpion 1000/1001 Mg vs Chronarch 50/51 Mg

But it doesn 't mean that you are less equipped with good quality domestic gear vs being equipped with JDM.

No, some are professionals and some are charter captains: Go Strip Bass Fishing now, with a Charter Captain and he will usually have the very best salt water gear for their customers. Enthusiast is not set by dollar amounts and not all high end buyers buy for collection some , indeed all the Captains here buy it out of need ,for their customers.

also there are tuna guys here,buying the best for themselves,and you should see what the Steel head guys are spending on rods and reels.Sorry Raul; 200 bucks is not a criteria for enthusiast

But Muddy, isn't it all relative? How can you compare a tuna fisherman's gear to a bass fisherman's gear? You cannot touch a deep drop rig for under $1200. But you can get a decent baitcasting rig for $150. I have a few JDM reels, including an Alphas and an ITO Alphas Ai. Neither cost me more than $200, yest they are considered "enthusiast gear." Just trying to put some perspective on things.

By the way, I caught this steelhead on a $120 Lamiglass Pro Graphite rod, and a $90 Daiwa spinning reel:

[Dan:]

Anybody that purchases a 200+ dollars reel is an enthusiast, you can do almost the same with a less expensive reel.

Sometimes JDM is "better" in some aspects, sometimes is not.

What 's so special about JDM ?

Sometimes it 's because at certain time it 's "better" ( different ) ex: Scorpion 1000/1001 vs Curado 100B

Sometimes it 's because it 's limited edition ex: TDZ Custom, TDZ Type R, TDZ Type R+, TD itö, Alphas Itö

Sometimes it 's because it 's not available in domestic version ex: Liberto Pixy, Antares AR ( Calais 100A ) lefty, Speedmaster

Sometimes it 's because at one time there was no domestic version but later the domestic version appeared, ex: Scorpion 1000/1001 Mg vs Chronarch 50/51 Mg

But it doesn 't mean that you are less equipped with good quality domestic gear vs being equipped with JDM.

No, some are professionals and some are charter captains: Go Strip Bass Fishing now, with a Charter Captain and he will usually have the very best salt water gear for their customers. Enthusiast is not set by dollar amounts and not all high end buyers buy for collection some , indeed all the Captains here buy it out of need ,for their customers.

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I wish you had told that to the Captain that I went trolling with! It's hard to reel in snarled umbrella rigs behind a moving boat with a reel that doesn't want to crank smoothly.

And I think the warranty stuff that Pantera was getting at is that to offset the costs of warranty exchanges rod companies have to charge more for their products.

[Pantera61]

For the price of some of those JDM reels and rods I couldn't imagine buying with no warrranty. Theres no way I would pay over $200 for a rod without a lifetime warranty. Its way too easy to break a rod.

Why would you expect a company to enable oafishness on anyone's part?

More accurately, why should I have to pay more for an item to subsidize another individual's oafishness and the manufacture looks good?

Those last 2 posts may have well have been Japanese, they make no sense in English

The rods I have , all have warranties, they are all specific as to what they cover, how and why does this effect you buying one?

There's nothing to misunderstand.  If you abuse the warranty process why should everybody else pay for it?

[steezy]

I'll choose the "lifetime no hassle replacement policy" over the "defective product replacement" anytime, even if it means paying a little more.

I bet most "enthusiasts" would do the same.

[Pantera61]

I'll choose the "lifetime no hassle replacement policy" over the "defective product replacement" anytime, even if it means paying a little more.

I bet most "enthusiasts" would do the same.

Actually, most "enthusiasts" have already chosen to forego the warranty.

[steezy]

I'll choose the "lifetime no hassle replacement policy" over the "defective product replacement" anytime, even if it means paying a little more.

I bet most "enthusiasts" would do the same.

Actually, most "enthusiasts" have already chosen to forego the warranty.

If someone ("enthusiasts") is buying high end gear at a premium price that is mass produced to actually fish with and that can be replaced via a warranty, then IMHO they do care about a warranty.

If they are just buying to collect unique gear then they couldn't care less about a warranty.