? about the Daiwa Zillion rods....

[KYntucky Warmouth]

Specifically, I'm looking for information on the TDZL701MXB 7'M.  If there is anyone that has or has fished this rod I'm interested in the power, action, and weight of the rod.  I have heard these rods are underrated and was wondering how well it would preform with 3/16oz.  I'm planning on getting a dedicated tube rod to match with a Daiwa Alphas 103 and wondering if it would be a good match for this smaller reel.  Any help about the rod or the series in general is much appreciated.  

[Dan:]

I have the 6'8" MH XF version. They are great rods. Very light and sensitive. I like XF actions for bottom bouncing baits so I would think that rod would be great for tubes.

[The_Natural]

I own all of them except for the 7'6" flippin' stick.  The 7' M is the best of the bunch in my opinion.  It is noticeably lighter than the rest, and balances superbly.  The other Zillions in the lineup are light weight in general, but are perceived to be heavier than the powell and Cumara if you don't factor in their grossly underpowered rating.  It's worse than the Loomis BCR in terms of underrating the power.  My 7' MH is clearly more powerful than an 844 Loomis.  I generally don't feel comfortable fishing plastics with a medium power rod...I want a stout rod to ensure a good hookset.  However, the 7' M Zillion has the power to do it.  It is a great jig and plastics rod up to 5/8's or so.  You could work a 3/4oz bait with it, but 3/16th to 5/8th is going to be the rod's sweet spot.  My only gripe about the Zillion series is that the new reel seat's trigger seems to rub my finger for some reason.  I haven't heard anyone else gripe about this, but it bugs me.  

[fishntime]

I own all of them except for the 7'6" flippin' stick. The 7' M is the best of the bunch in my opinion. It is noticeably lighter than the rest, and balances superbly. The other Zillions in the lineup are light weight in general, but are perceived to be heavier than the powell and Cumara if you don't factor in their grossly underpowered rating. It's worse than the Loomis BCR in terms of underrating the power. My 7' MH is clearly more powerful than an 844 Loomis. I generally don't feel comfortable fishing plastics with a medium power rod...I want a stout rod to ensure a good hookset. However, the 7' M Zillion has the power to do it. It is a great jig and plastics rod up to 5/8's or so. You could work a 3/4oz bait with it, but 3/16th to 5/8th is going to be the rod's sweet spot. My only gripe about the Zillion series is that the new reel seat's trigger seems to rub my finger for some reason. I haven't heard anyone else gripe about this, but it bugs me.

Great info  

[KYntucky Warmouth]

I own all of them except for the 7'6" flippin' stick. The 7' M is the best of the bunch in my opinion. It is noticeably lighter than the rest, and balances superbly. The other Zillions in the lineup are light weight in general, but are perceived to be heavier than the powell and Cumara if you don't factor in their grossly underpowered rating. It's worse than the Loomis BCR in terms of underrating the power. My 7' MH is clearly more powerful than an 844 Loomis. I generally don't feel comfortable fishing plastics with a medium power rod...I want a stout rod to ensure a good hookset. However, the 7' M Zillion has the power to do it. It is a great jig and plastics rod up to 5/8's or so. You could work a 3/4oz bait with it, but 3/16th to 5/8th is going to be the rod's sweet spot. My only gripe about the Zillion series is that the new reel seat's trigger seems to rub my finger for some reason. I haven't heard anyone else gripe about this, but it bugs me.

Great info

Agreed, and just what I was looking for, have one on it's way tomorrow.  I was hoping The_Natural would chime in, I know he has experience with the rods.  

[massgreenfish]

Hi guys ,

new to the forum ,can someone give feedback on my zillion rod selection for specific applications 691mhxb-spinnerbait,worm+jig,701mxb-senko,701hfb-crankbait+701xhfb-carolina rig.I just purchased 5 zillion reels on *** sale.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks

[Grey Wolf]

Hi guys ,

new to the forum ,can someone give feedback on my zillion rod selection for specific applications 691mhxb-spinnerbait,worm+jig,701mxb-senko,701hfb-crankbait+701xhfb-carolina rig.I just purchased 5 zillion reels on *** sale.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks

Welcome but you shouldn't hi-jack some ones thread . Start your own thread if you have questions.

[massgreenfish]

I'm sorry this was not a Hi-Jack,just some needed info in the hobby we all love.

[Grey Wolf]

I'm sorry this was not a Hi-Jack,just some needed info in the hobby we all love.

If you say so.

[massgreenfish]

BigRickRolled,

Sorry for the hijack,just trying to get some answers to the zillion rods. Again Sorry

[21farms]

rick, i have the MH F 7-footer and it weighs 4.3 ounces. i'm sure the M XF 7-footer will be the same or lighter but i will confirm later this week when mine arrives   the zillions are sweet and definitely among my favorites. if daiwa only made it in 7'3" lengths, i would think they're perfect.

but, yes, i too think the power is underrated, especially if you are used to g.loomis' ratings.

[Dan:]

if daiwa only made it in 7'3" lengths, i would think they're perfect.

x2

[SJB1226]

I own all of them except for the 7'6" flippin' stick. The 7' M is the best of the bunch in my opinion. It is noticeably lighter than the rest, and balances superbly. The other Zillions in the lineup are light weight in general, but are perceived to be heavier than the powell and Cumara if you don't factor in their grossly underpowered rating. It's worse than the Loomis BCR in terms of underrating the power. My 7' MH is clearly more powerful than an 844 Loomis. I generally don't feel comfortable fishing plastics with a medium power rod...I want a stout rod to ensure a good hookset. However, the 7' M Zillion has the power to do it. It is a great jig and plastics rod up to 5/8's or so. You could work a 3/4oz bait with it, but 3/16th to 5/8th is going to be the rod's sweet spot. My only gripe about the Zillion series is that the new reel seat's trigger seems to rub my finger for some reason. I haven't heard anyone else gripe about this, but it bugs me.

Agreed other then the reel seat part!!! I love the Seat!

[BassinSoldier]

I have a 6'9" MH Zillion I use as my primary frog and slop rod (goes to show how underrated the power is).  I agree with the_natural about the trigger.  I have come home a few times with a red mark between my middle and forefinger from hard hooksets with this rod.  Don't let this discourage you though.  The Zillion rods are RIDICULOUSLY light and sensitive.  For the price I don't think there is a more sensitive stick out there, and I've used quite a few (Loomis, St. Croix, anything you can think of...)...Just my .02

[ptomacbass]

I love my Zillion flipping stick.  I haven't been paying attention to my other rods lately, this thing is awesome.  It is the most powerful rod I have ever owned.  I use it for football jigs, big worms, big spoons, flipping, frogging, and swimbaits

[KYntucky Warmouth]

Just got my 7'M Zillion literally 5 minutes ago.  On first impressions I am very pleased.  It balances extremely well with my Alphas 103 and is every thing I was wanting out of a custom rod, with the exception of a little purple in it but that was down on the list of specs.  More importantly I was looking for a 7'M-XF rod that was decently light and balanced well with the Alpha and this rod has it all.  The only thing left is to put it into action.  

[21farms]

my zillion 7' M XF just arrived. it weighs 4.2 ounces WITH TAGS. i want to savor the "new rod feeling" for awhile longer so i'm not gonna cut the tags off just yet ;D my guess is that, without the tags, it would weigh 4.1 ounces. that, my friends, is light!

[BMoore]

Hey bigrickrolled, is the reel you put on it light or on the heavier side? Do these rods balance better with a light reel or are they a good match for the zillion reel?

[Dan:]

Hey bigrickrolled, is the reel you put on it light or on the heavier side? Do these rods balance better with a light reel or are they a good match for the zillion reel?

I've heard they balance perfectly with zillion reels but mine feels pretty awesome with a Revo Premier (6.35oz) on it.

[K_Mac]

my zillion 7' M XF just arrived. it weighs 4.2 ounces WITH TAGS. i want to savor the "new rod feeling" for awhile longer so i'm not gonna cut the tags off just yet ;D my guess is that, without the tags, it would weigh 4.1 ounces. that, my friends, is light!

I've had backlashes that weigh more than that. ;D

[KYntucky Warmouth]

Hey bigrickrolled, is the reel you put on it light or on the heavier side? Do these rods balance better with a light reel or are they a good match for the zillion reel?

I've heard they balance perfectly with zillion reels but mine feels pretty awesome with a Revo Premier (6.35oz) on it.

Well....mine is matched with an alphas103....if I'm not mistaken, that's around 6.4oz, and is a wonderfull match, feels like they were made to go together. I have an SHA that I haven't tried on it yet but the Alpha is gonna be hard to beat

[Dan:]

Hey bigrickrolled, is the reel you put on it light or on the heavier side? Do these rods balance better with a light reel or are they a good match for the zillion reel?

I've heard they balance perfectly with zillion reels but mine feels pretty awesome with a Revo Premier (6.35oz) on it.

Well....mine is matched with an alphas103....if I'm not mistaken, that's around 6.4oz, and is a wonderfull match, feels like they were made to go together. I have an SHA that I haven't tried on it yet but the Alpha is gonna be hard to beat

I know what you mean, my Premier weighs the same and like I said, it feels pretty darn awesome.

[SJB1226]

4.2oz's? I just weighed mine on two different digi scales one read 112 and the other 112 grams I weighed it three times on each scale so im pretty sure 4.2 is a little high... more like 3.957oz's

not trying to say anyones wrong just telling the info I just triple checked.

Now my Daiwa Zillion TDZL691MHXB weighs 117 grams 4.127oz's

and the rods balance out beautiful with a Zillion, TD-Z, Alaphs

and the 6.6 med XF is awesome with a pixy

[21farms]

4.2oz's? I just weighed mine on two different digi scales one read 112 and the other 112 grams I weighed it three times on each scale so im pretty sure 4.2 is a little high... more like 3.957oz's

not trying to say anyones wrong just telling the info I just triple checked.

Now my Daiwa Zillion TDZL691MHXB weighs 117 grams 4.127oz's

no worries  

like i said, the 4.2 oz. reading i got was with the tags on it still and i realized i also had a little fuji EZ keeper II hook keeper installed...i only guessed that it would weigh 4.1 oz. without the tags. without tags and the hook keeper, it could very well be 4.0 oz.