Uncle Leo Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 I wonder, how many bearings truly come into play when casting? Just so many can be mounted on a spool. Also how much drag is truly needed to successfully land a fish. I wonder if the power and action of the rod and test of the line needs to be considered. Seems to me that there are many fine reels out there with 5 bearings and 11-12 lbs of drag that perform well, these included. On most baitcasters, just two or three. There is a shaft support bearing on the palm side, another shaft support close to the spool and before the pinion, and on some reels the bearing under the cast control knob comes into play. No need for 10 bearings to cast then. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 13, 2009 Super User Posted August 13, 2009 The rest are either to tighten up poor tolerances in the frame or for a smooth retireve (or both). Look at the Shimano Stradic (yes, I realize its a spinning reel), it has 5 WELL PLACED bearings, and remains one of the smoothest reels out there. Many ten year old + Stradics come in for maintenance, and still run smooth. Fish one of those 14 bearing $49.99 reels you see on the end cap sale display at Dick's for ten years, and tell me how it feels. Quote
Uncle Leo Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Your not suppose to mention Shimano but yes I agree. Quote
DINK WHISPERER Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 That's okay we all know the Curado is better. Like Sox over the Cubs I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW THAT IS TRULY FUNNY!!!!!! Better..................LOL..................... Quote
Koop Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 I laid an order down on TW for an STX HS, I cant wait to get her mounted up. I've a feeling Im may like this better then my Curado with all the positive responses going on in here. CWB asked for Shimano not to be mentioned so thanks for the opening. Seriously no way if your talking about the Curado 200 that you have. Less drag of course versus the STX but that reel is sweet. Sorry Ken. I knew you were laying in the weeds waiting for an opening to pounce. No worries. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however misguided. ;D Sorry Uncle Leo & CWB, although theres never a mention of the curado being better, it clearly states "I may" sorry again guys. That's okay we all know the Curado is better. Like Sox over the Cubs I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wait wait let me get this straight... so: Cubs are a Revo S... Sox are a Curado 200... and the Brewers are the STX that trumps them all? Quote
ZZ Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 I have the SX, STX, abd the Winch instead of the Premier. I love all 3 of these reels and can't wait till October when the New STX SX and Premier comes out. Only thing I did like about my Daiws I phased out was the swept handles. ZZ Quote
The_Natural Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Premier hands down; you can buy last years model for $170 at Tackle Warehouse, and cheaper on Ebay. Quote
ArcticCat500 Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I have owned both and hated the Premier! Lightness was all it had on its side! Whoever says they are almost the same has never used both. The drag on the Premier was weak and it was not nearly as smooth as the STX! When Tackle Warehouse put the STX on sale i ended up replacing all my SX and S Revos with them (10 total)! IMO, the STX is the best in the Revo line up(i have used almost every Revo they made)! Re: I need help picking out a RevoReply #3 - Apr 19th, 2009, 11:03pm The STX is not worth the extra cost man! I have two SX and only one STX. The STX has the Infi II spool but it doesn't cast any further than the SX! I actually like my SX better. The brakes are fine on the reels as well. I hated my S model because no matter what setting i put the brakes on it was still the same! Trust me, get a SX model and you will not regret it!!!! Hey Dink, Im not trying to start any crap dude. I used the search engine like we're supposed to and came across this post you made 4 months ago. Can you please elaborate as to why you chose the STX over the other Revos. I'm definitely going Revo but not sure which just yet. Thanks. Peace Quote
Koop Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 That post was from April, that's a whole fishing season to get a different opinion ;D . He probably fell in love with the drag settings on the STX Quote
Super User CWB Posted August 15, 2009 Author Super User Posted August 15, 2009 I have owned both and hated the Premier! Lightness was all it had on its side! Whoever says they are almost the same has never used both. The drag on the Premier was weak and it was not nearly as smooth as the STX! When Tackle Warehouse put the STX on sale i ended up replacing all my SX and S Revos with them (10 total)! IMO, the STX is the best in the Revo line up(i have used almost every Revo they made)! Re: I need help picking out a RevoReply #3 - Apr 19th, 2009, 11:03pm The STX is not worth the extra cost man! I have two SX and only one STX. The STX has the Infi II spool but it doesn't cast any further than the SX! I actually like my SX better. The brakes are fine on the reels as well. I hated my S model because no matter what setting i put the brakes on it was still the same! Trust me, get a SX model and you will not regret it!!!! Hey Dink, Im not trying to start any crap dude. I used the search engine like we're supposed to and came across this post you made 4 months ago. Can you please elaborate as to why you chose the STX over the other Revos. I'm definitely going Revo but not sure which just yet. Thanks. Peace In Dinks defense, the question was about the Premier and the STX only and he chose according to the question. I think what was quoted bears that out. No mention of the Premier was made. Anyway, I received my order Thursday and can't believe how light the Premier is. I spooled both up with 12 lb. Yo-Zuri Hybrid and made a few casts with each using the same bait. To me, no noticeable difference. Didn't catch anything on either so can't make drag comparison. Did get some nice ones on other set-ups though. Will post pics when I get home. I ended up buying both my buddy was selling and will make decision after more use tonight and tomorrow A.M. I will see which one handles lighter baits better. One or the other will end up on ebay or flea market here. Couldn't pass up price. Any thoughts on which one would be the better choice for casting lighter baits, 1/8 - 1/4 oz?Time for a swim and breakfast. Quote
ArcticCat500 Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I'm not flamming Dink at all, Im couriuos as to why, sorry CWB didnt mean to mud up your thread Quote
Super User CWB Posted August 15, 2009 Author Super User Posted August 15, 2009 I'm not flamming Dink at all, Im couriuos as to why, sorry CWB didnt mean to mud up your thread Don't sweat it. I'm curious myself. Now that I have tried both, I'm having a harder time deciding. The weight is not a huge issue with me, it's more the casting distance, and non-backlashing along with longevity. Quote
infamous512 Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Isn't weight of the spool can affect casting distance? I read it from somewhere that lighter spool will help cast both heavy & light bait/tackle easier. If this is true then aluminum aircraft spool in the premier should be one of the advantage over stx b/c the spool is lighter... Just my thoughts! Quote
DINK WHISPERER Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I have owned both and hated the Premier! Lightness was all it had on its side! Whoever says they are almost the same has never used both. The drag on the Premier was weak and it was not nearly as smooth as the STX! When Tackle Warehouse put the STX on sale i ended up replacing all my SX and S Revos with them (10 total)! IMO, the STX is the best in the Revo line up(i have used almost every Revo they made)! Re: I need help picking out a RevoReply #3 - Apr 19th, 2009, 11:03pm The STX is not worth the extra cost man! I have two SX and only one STX. The STX has the Infi II spool but it doesn't cast any further than the SX! I actually like my SX better. The brakes are fine on the reels as well. I hated my S model because no matter what setting i put the brakes on it was still the same! Trust me, get a SX model and you will not regret it!!!! Hey Dink, Im not trying to start any crap dude. I used the search engine like we're supposed to and came across this post you made 4 months ago. Can you please elaborate as to why you chose the STX over the other Revos. I'm definitely going Revo but not sure which just yet. Thanks. Peace In another thread you said you used the SX and did not like it! You stated the Curado E was WAY better! Why look for a Revo now(just curious)? If this is true than the STX may not be to your liking either! They are indeed very similar. I chose the STX now mainly because i had not given it the deserved time on the water back then! It is almost even between the SX and STX for me but after using the STX exclusively for a couple months i liked it better! Also, i got the STXs at the discounted TW price so that came into play. Another big factor was that i had two SX break on me in a week on hook sets, lOL! If the prices were all MSRP with no discounts i would pick the SX over the STX and both over the Premier! Laterz, Luis Quote
ArcticCat500 Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Hey Dink, thanks for the reply, you'll have to dig up that thread of me stating I ever used a Revo, never owned one....and as far as a Curado E, never even had the pleasure to handle one of those either. I do own a Curado, but not the E, its the 200 series from last year, actually had 3 but sold them off.... Just looking to try something different, and found the STX at a great price. http://www.simmonssportinggoods.net/servlet/the-9551/ABU-GARCIA-AMBASSADEUR-STX-dsh-HS/Detail Quote
DINK WHISPERER Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I apologize Mr. ArcticCat500! It was someone else i was thinking of, LOL! For the price of the STX right now it should not even be an issue really!!! Quote
ArcticCat500 Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 looking forward to sitting the STX on the reel seat and getting busy with it. Thanks Dink...Peace. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted August 16, 2009 Super User Posted August 16, 2009 fwiw, Simmons is a fantastic place to do business. Quote
JohnMac Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 fwiw, Simmons is a fantastic place to do business. x2 just bought a 51mg there for 175 Quote
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