Bob Dole Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 Hello, I recently purchased 2 Pflueger spinning reels, a little Trion 4725GX and a Supreme 8030MG. On both reels I noticed that they would spool line up really low on the spool, sometimes outside of the line area altogether (using 4lb mono on the Trion and 10lb braid on the Supreme). On both reels I removed what is called the "sheet washer" from the main shaft which dropped the spool down some. This helped both reels spooling out a lot, the Trion spools perfect but the Supreme doesn't spool the bottom mm of the spool really well, kinda a wavy thin pattern, kinda like it's tossing line down there as apposed to spooling it but the top part of the spool is fine. I may try and find a washer about half the thickness of the original and see if that fixes it. Has anyone else ever had this happen with the Pflueger reels? Other than that they both feel fine except for a little ticking of the Supreme under load. I have to say the little Trion is the smoothest spinning reel I have ever used. Quote
mrlitetackle Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 reels should spool fine out of the box..... that being said, on occasion i have had reels that have needed shims added or removed to aid in the spooling. if the one is still giving you problems, i would take it back for an exchange...... and start with something a little more promising. Pflueger makes a quality reel, but all cant be expected to be perfect all the time. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 3, 2009 Super User Posted August 3, 2009 I have the trion 20 with 4# mono and the supreme30 with 10# braid, both spool up just fine. You may try having a tackle shop spool one up and see if there is a difference. I'm having a similar problem with a 4000 spheros and that's what I'm going to do, never had the problem on the spheros before. Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted August 3, 2009 Super User Posted August 3, 2009 I own those EXACT models and have had zero troubles with them. If you bought them new I would not hesitate to return them for exchange. If the problem persists, it's not the reels. Shimano is the only brand that I'm aware of that adds or removes shims under the spool to adjust line lay. Quote
Bob Dole Posted August 5, 2009 Author Posted August 5, 2009 Dunno, it's just weird, I own Shimanos, Daiwas, Abu Garcias, etc and they are the only reels I have ever had do that. Anyhow, I returned the Supreme and got a Shimano Stradic. Quote
FishDontLikeMe1301600221 Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 sounds like it was the shims...anyways nice upgrade!!!! Quote
Incheon Basser Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 Now Pflueger's are Shakespeares, and Quantums are Zebcos, a pig with lip stick is still a pig right??? lol Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 6, 2009 Super User Posted August 6, 2009 Anyhow, I returned the Supreme and got a Shimano Stradic. Not that the supreme is bad but the stradic is a great reel, I have a stradic as well. I believe one can find fault with any product. Quote
Bob Dole Posted August 6, 2009 Author Posted August 6, 2009 Sadly I didn't want to find any fault in it, but the ticking of the reel under load and the spooling issues, well I figured it was time to break down and finally go back to a Shimano even though I had avoided getting one over my last 6 reel purchases. Not that there is anything at all wrong with Shimanos, they are rock solid, it's just that I like to branch out and give other mfgrs a shot. Quote
FishDontLikeMe1301600221 Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 Now Pflueger's are Shakespeares, and Quantums are Zebcos, a pig with lip stick is still a pig right??? lol they have been since the begining of time...but you also forgot to add that now abu and pflueger are hand n hand as well Quote
Incheon Basser Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 Now Pflueger's are Shakespeares, and Quantums are Zebcos, a pig with lip stick is still a pig right??? lol they have been since the begining of time...but you also forgot to add that now abu and pflueger are hand n hand as well so Shakespear bought abu too? Quote
Bob Dole Posted August 7, 2009 Author Posted August 7, 2009 When did this happen, Shakespear purchasing Abu Garcia? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 7, 2009 Super User Posted August 7, 2009 They are all part of Pure Fishing Inc.: http://www.purefishing.com/ Quote
Incheon Basser Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 2007 - Pure Fishing and Shakespeare Fishing Tackle join forces to form the world's largest fishing tackle company, adding the Shakespeare, Ugly Stik, Penn, All Star Rods, Pflueger, and XTools brands. 2004 - Stren is acquired 2003 - 7Strand joins Pure Fishing 2000 - Pure Fishing acquires Johnson Worldwide Associates, including the brands Mitchell, Johnson, and Spiderwire 2000 - Outdoor Technologies Group becomes Pure Fishing 1995 - Abu Garcia joins Outdoor Technologies Group 1988 - Berkley Fishing acquires Fenwick and becomes Outdoor Technologies Group haha so Shakespeare, Ugly Stik, Penn, All Star Rods, Pflueger, XTools, Stren, Mitchell, Johnson, Spiderwire, Abu Garcia, Brass Eagle, Berkley, and Fenwick are all the same pig... awesome... lol And they all belong to Jarden Corporation.. http://www.jarden.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=72395&p=home and the own all of these... Consumer Solutions Bionaire®, Crock-Pot®, FoodSaver®, Harmony®, Health o meter®, Holmes®, Margaritaville Cargo®, Mr. Coffee®, Oster®, Patton®, Rival®, Seal-a-Meal®, Sunbeam®, VillaWare®, White Mountain®, and Zarafina®. Personal Comfort & Wellness Arius Eickert®, Oster Style®, Sunbeam Bedding®, and Sunbeam Hospitality®. Animal Solutions Hydrosurge®, and Oster Pro®. Apparel and Footwear Adio®, Cappel®, ExOfficio®, Hodgman®, Mad Dog Gear®, Marmot®, and Planet Earth®. Leisure and Entertainment American Painter®, Aristocrat®, Arttec®, Aviator®, Bee®, Bicycle®, Contemporary Crafts®, Forster®, Hoyle®, KEM®, Loew-Cornell®, and Totally You®. Consumer Staples Ball®, Bernardin®, Diamond®, Java Log®, Kerr®, Northland®, Pine Mountain®, and StarterLogg®. Safety and Security BRK®, Crawford®, Dicon®, First Alert®, Lehigh®, Leslie-Locke®, M&K Products®, One Link®, SecureLine®, Storehorse®, Tundra®, Ultra Hold®, and Wellington®. Outdoor Recreation Campingaz®, and Coleman®. Winter Sports 5150Snowboards®, Atlas Snow Shoes®, Full Tilt®, K2 Alpine Touring®, K2 Skate ®, K2 Skis®, K2 Snowboards®, Karhu®, Line®, Madshus, Marker®, Morrow®, Ride®, Tubbs Snow Shoes®, and Volkl®. Fishing Abu Garcia®, All Star Rods®, Berkley®, Fenwick®, Gulp!®, Johnson®, JRC Products®, Mitchell®, Penn®, Pflueger®, Shakespeare®, Spiderwire®, Stren®, Trilene®, Ugly Stick®, and XTools®. Team Sports Brass Eagle®, deBeer®, Hilton®, JT®, Miken®, Rawlings®, ViewLoader®, and Worth®. Water Sports Helium®, Sevylor®, Sospenders®, and Stearns®. Quote
Bob Dole Posted August 8, 2009 Author Posted August 8, 2009 All added to the list of brands to not buy, thanks for posting. Quote
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