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You're right Burley, my President spinning reels are made in China.  Judging by how well they operate those sweat shop workers were trained right and they actually have quality control.

Not sure I'd ever gnaw on the reel though, I'm sure the paint has lead in it.  :)

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Well, my grandmother is 100% Sicilian and she says NEVER trust a Sicilian woman with a knife ;D ;D ;D ;D

Friends Close/Enemies Closer...Now that's Sun-Tzu from "The Art War"...5,000 years ago. A  Genius.

Look man, I'm not saying "DON'T BUY ANYTHING NOT AMERICAN MADE" just look and shop a bit if time permits, I have no kids so I can putz around, much to the chagrin of my wife and look for that stuff...but a family trying to exist in these warp speed times? Fuhgeddaboutit.

I worked in the auto industry for 20 years. Mechanic to start at 15 year old, apprentice engine builder by 21, finished as a service manager at Toyota.

GUESS WHAT??? Both of my Toyota's are all Japanese build...I look for the ones with the J in the first letter of the VIN#. Why, it's built better than the ones built here. Why do I know?

I saw warranty for 10 years and though an American built yota is a GREAT car, the homeland built ones are just darned near indestructible. These are life experiences. That's all.

Who said we are a young country? GODD FOR YOU. That is a TOTALLY RELAVENT, LUCID statement. And as other said, we are still learning...sometimes REALLY bad and sometimes REALLY good.

You can still buy a Swedish built ABU, a Japanese Shimano and a US built reel....if they are in your budget but some of the Chinese stuff is very good.....it's who oversees the factory in the end and when someone or some company is good to the employees and insists on quality I have ZERO problems with outsourcing.

My shop is LOADED with Chinese guitars..in this economy it's hard to talk them into a 1k and up American piece when they are worried whether they will have a job in the next week or so.

All in all, when you buy, COMPARE, TOUCH, FEEL and closely examine...sometimes, the Chinese and other mfr countries will suprise you.

I have a Malaysian made new Sustain FE....Didn't quite like it at first...felt strange, clunky (more so to me because I haven't bought a spinning reall in 15 years"but after using it for a few months, I am starting to adore that reel. It's tough, overpriced, but just tough. Longevity, not sure...if it goes 25 years like my Custom Magnumlite 1000GT I'd be happy but I will get a Stella anyways. I love precision of the Japanese stuff.

I fought a HELL of a battle in wicked current, a flood stage river that was brown mud with a 3lb smallie yesterday, pulling it against that current from about 100 feet downstream. The Bronzeback GLX and Sustain took that fish to task and he took them to task. Nothing gave...One of the more exciting catches I have had.

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I've been pondering the "buy American", look for the union label, and all that jazz.

Automobiles. Without getting into the quality debate or anything else comparing brands.

The argument goes that buying foreign (whatever foreign means today) is somehow unpatriotic, and shows disdain for those who labor making "American" vehicles.

I'll give you a different perspective.

So the unions want us to support and show concern for the workers. Well and good.

However, when they were in contract negotiations they were trying to wring every last cent out of the companies, be it wages, retirement, health care and other bennies, that they could.

Did they care in the least about the consumer, who in reality pays these wages and bennies? Did they show any "loyalty" to the American consumer when they were driving the price of vehicles up so they could fatten their pockets, by taking money from me?

The answer should be obvious to anyone with a pulse. So, I'll show the same amount of concern for them and their finances that they show for mine.

They do what is best for them. I'll do what is best for me. If they take it on the chin in the process, so be it.

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It all boils down too who gets a fat wallet .If we buy American we are lining pockets in America at least .When we buy foriegn we have no clue whos pocket we line but rest assured its a case of robbing peter to pay paul,chong,yoshef,alladdin etc

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I say screw the global economy!!!! We can produce anything we need right here and we can keep all the unfair trade out. We can make the best of anything if common sense prevails and greed wasn't a factor.

Let the businesses that can't do it right fail, no matter how big they are and no matter whether it's because of corporate greed or union greed, let them fail, someone will take the market share and succeed and create fair paying jobs!!!

The UAW factory rats (not all but too many) that thought they were entitled to make big bucks and get 8 hours (or more) of pay for 4 hours worth of work, if they actually showed up at all, so there could be twice as many jobs as needed, are a big cause of this whole global economy. Now that the whole thing is caving in on them they want to cry foul and of course the moron politicians will give them what they want!!!!

What was I thinking??? This is a no win situation so buy from china and japan and korea, we get what we deserve for being a greedy society and feeling like we are entitled to something for nothing!!!!!

End of rant, I'm going fishing in my american lake!!!!!! :)

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