rboat Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 I am using 30lb braid on my SB setup. Is straight braid ok or should I tie a leader of mono on it? Your thoughts? Thanks Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 I think the general consensus by the cali guys and big baiters is that you don't use braid ever for swimbaits. I use 20lb CXX Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 I don't throw real heavy swimbaits, 2 oz max. mostly Mattlures hard bluegills...My rig is a shimano 7'6" calcutta, reel is shimano Chronarch 101...I use either 12, or 10 lb Yozuri Hybrid ultrasoft. If your tossin heavier baits, I'd bump the test up accordingly, also depends on structure too. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 I don't throw real heavy swimbaits, 2 oz max. mostly Mattlures hard bluegills...My rig is a shimano 7'6" calcutta, reel is shimano Chronarch 101...I use either 12, or 10 lb Yozuri Hybrid ultrasoft. If your tossin heavier baits, I'd bump the test up accordingly, also depends on structure too. you throw 2oz baits on 12 or 10lb line? Quote
Super User burleytog Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 You're throwing a Hard Gill on 10 or 12 lb. line? :-? If I was going to use braid for swimbaits, I would not use anything less than 50 lb. I tried braid, didn't like it. Nothing but 20 and 25 lb. PLine CXX clear now. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 I don't throw real heavy swimbaits, 2 oz max. mostly Mattlures hard bluegills...My rig is a shimano 7'6" calcutta, reel is shimano Chronarch 101...I use either 12, or 10 lb Yozuri Hybrid ultrasoft. If your tossin heavier baits, I'd bump the test up accordingly, also depends on structure too. you throw 2oz baits on 12 or 10lb line? Yup... Quote
Super User Dan: Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 I don't throw real heavy swimbaits, 2 oz max. mostly Mattlures hard bluegills...My rig is a shimano 7'6" calcutta, reel is shimano Chronarch 101...I use either 12, or 10 lb Yozuri Hybrid ultrasoft. If your tossin heavier baits, I'd bump the test up accordingly, also depends on structure too. you throw 2oz baits on 12 or 10lb line? Yup... Why in the world would you do that? I would think just casting 2oz too hard could snap 10lb line. Seriously, I don't even throw moderately heavy jigs with 10-12lb line Quote
sweet daddy Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 Hey if you like the p line wal mrt has it on the blue light isle for 5 bucks a roll. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 20lb CXX green and 25lb Triple Fish Camo-Escent. Throwing a Hard Gill on 10 or 12lb? Just send me your money. It will generally have the same effect. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 Why all the doubting..re: my line..? No offence, but sometimes you can go to far with line, i.e. needing 20lb when a lighter line will do. Quote
Bantam1 Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 I throw my Hudds on 12-15# FC I have yet to break one off or lose a fish Quote
Super User Dan: Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 Why all the doubting..re: my line..? No offence, but sometimes you can go to far with line, i.e. needing 20lb when a lighter line will do. i just prefer to keep my baits, that's all...i'm surprised that you've never had any issues Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 If I do have issues, you'll be the first to know... Why all the doubting..re: my line..? No offence, but sometimes you can go to far with line, i.e. needing 20lb when a lighter line will do. i just prefer to keep my baits, that's all...i'm surprised that you've never had any issues Quote
rboat Posted July 1, 2009 Author Posted July 1, 2009 I think I will try the 30lb braid straight and see how it goes. If it doesn't work well, I have some 25lb trilene big game or I will try the Pline cxx that most are recommending. Thanks. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 I think I will try the 30lb braid straight and see how it goes. If it doesn't work well, I have some 25lb trilene big game or I will try the Pline cxx that most are recommending. Thanks. If you start pulling baits out of fish' mouths or ripping up their lips, try the stretchier mono or copoly options. Quote
Branuss04 Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 To answer the original post.... I would HIGHLY suggest tying on a leader of some sort. The main reason is, if you get a backlash while throwing a semi heavy bait, your sure to snap braid, especially 30#. Adding a 5-10ft leader of some sort gives the line just enough stretch to eliminate this possibility. Once again, i'm not sure the size/weight of bait you are throwing, but I've casted off wake jr's while throwing them on 50# braid, it doesn't take alot to snap them off. It's also the abraision resistance factor. So if your running a 5-10ft leader, you have more abraision resistance when running around rocks, trees, etc than braid. If you are set on using braid, I HIGHLY suggest using 50 # minimum. Personally I wouldn't use anything less than 65 for baits 2+ oz's. Even then I would be sure to have a leader Hammer - When I first started throwing swimbaits (1-2oz) I too used 12# CX. Back then I didn't know any better. Looking back on it I was lucky not to loose any big fish or baits. I think 10-12# will work in "normal" situations, but when swimbait fishing you always want to be prepared for the un-expected. That's why we don't use the minimun # line. I can think of a handful of times last year where I would of easily lost fish (as well as $40+ baits) if I were using lighter line because the fish took me around a tree or stump. But to each his own I personally use P-Line CXX on all my swimbait rods. I've gone through a handful of brands and finally decided this is my stuff. 30# CXX for 6+oz baits 25# CXX for 3-5oz baits 20# CXX for 1-3oz baits Add a little KVD line and lure conditioner and your set. Good luck!!! Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 1, 2009 Super User Posted July 1, 2009 Thanks Braunuss..Normally where I fish there's not alot of timber ect, there are however rocks. If I do lose a bait, I'll certainly take your recomendation re: CXX. Just for the record so to speak, if I were to be fishing around timer ect, then I would definitly go up in line size, oth, I've never used p line, might just try some..thanks again. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted July 2, 2009 Super User Posted July 2, 2009 All i can say is 2 0z on 10 or 12 lb line no way he is sending it far maybe tossing it Quote
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