Line snapping (Braid Help)

[Koop]

I've been fishing some very thick reed / hydrilla / lilly mixture...   I've been using 30lb spider braid, and I keep breaking off, should I be going heavier? 60-75lb? My revo sx is my main casting reel, would that be able to handle 60-75lb braid?

[TrippyJai]

Of course it will, people use 50-65lb power pro braid to flip. I have 50 lb power pro for my worm rod and it works perfect.

Try it.

[JiggaMan512]

Hmmm.. as an avid braid user, that doesn't sound normal..

(Not trying to insult your intelligence but..) Are you 100% sure that your line is actually breaking, or is it coming off at the lure?

What kind of knot are you tying for braid?

[Koop]

I'm positive its not the knot, I'm usually use an improved clinch or a double palomer. Not sure what the issue is but it is deffinately snapping. Maybe I just got a bad spool?

[JiggaMan512]

yeah, thats what i was thinking too..

still got your receipt??

[Koop]

Yeah I do, maybe I will just take it back and try another spool of 30# before upping the test.  I just started using braid so wasn't sure if I needed to go heavier or if this was something off.

[dodgeguy]

are you sure a rock didn't cut it?spiderwire stinks.fireline's new 8 strand braid is the best imho followed by sufix.powerpro is an outdated 4 strand braid.all the rest are pretenders.YOU SHOULD ALSO BE USING AT LEAST 65 LB TEST.the thicker line will withstand more abrasion and will not dig into your spool.it is only 15 lb diameter.

[Tanker4lyfe]

Wow cant believe no one mentioned checking your guides, run a q-tip thru them. Even braid can be severely weakned by fraid's and nicks. Also there is only one braid that needs to be used and its called POWER PRO its truly awesome.

[Tanker4lyfe]

Digging into your spool. Wow hate to know what your doing cause you should be back spooling whenever you use braid. heres why:

1. it will cut cost

2. your only flipping and pitching with it (usually) so i like to use about 75 yards

3. for a multi day tourney after flipping and pitching for hours its alot easier to change for the next day

[DINK WHISPERER]

Flippin' and pitchin' is the exact reason why it digs into itself. You must have your drag set tight(if you want to get the fish out) when using these techniques! And most people don't fish tournaments so there is no need to switch every two days. Why in the world would you want to with braid anyways!?! Also, FireLine and Suffix are FAR superior to Power Pro!

[Micro]

Stop using braid.  You don't need it.   Braid is garbage.

Any line that requires backing, requires a leader, and can't take abrasion sucks.

[sweet daddy]

Fireline, and suffix are the cheap mans power pro. I have used all of them, and the berkley products suck, the suffix is as stiff as spider wire, and most of you have been spoiled on braid by the weaker products. Try power pro, or magi braid then tell me I don't need braid.

[Jimzee]

I had the same issues with braid on hooksets.  Braid has almost nearly zero stretch, so the shock resistance suffers on strong or solid hooksets.  I switched brands thinking it might help, same issues no matter what brand I tied on.  I have to say Sufix was the preferred brand to snap the least.  I have since switched to Fluorocarbon and never looked back.  More fish, more abrasion resistance, and no line snapping on hooksets.  

[dodgeguy]

unless you are tieing terrible knots or getting cut on rocks 50 and 65 lb fireline or sufix braid will explode your rod before it snaps.

[Jimzee]

unless you are tieing terrible knots or getting cut on rocks 50 and 65 lb fireline or sufix braid will explode your rod before it snaps.

Snapped that on hooksets too. It wasn't the knots I was tying or due to fishing in rock. Braid just doesn't deal real well with sudden or hard hooksets.

Having zero stretch means something has to give. It's usually the rod if the drag is cranked all the way down. I think it mainly boils down to poor abrasion resistance, braid is not so good in that category.

[Fish Chris]

Stop using braid.  You don't need it.   Braid is garbage.

Any line that requires backing, requires a leader, and can't take abrasion sucks.

Yea'.... huh....

Must be why I never catch any big ones.

Geeez, I sure wish somemebody would have told me this earlier

Peace,

Fish

[fishfordollars]

Check your guides. May have one that is bad and damaging the line. Braid is not bullet proof. It needs to be maintained and changed. If you are breaking off at the knot retie several times a day and strip off a few feet when you do. If it continues replace the line with Powerpro. Your reel will handle 65# braid with no problem.

[fishfordollars]

Stop using braid. You don't need it. Braid is garbage.

Any line that requires backing, requires a leader, and can't take abrasion sucks.

Huh? No backing here. No leader here either. Braid is not a cure all.

What a ridiculous statement.

[bass wrangler569]

Fireline, and suffix are the cheap mans power pro. I have used all of them, and the berkley products suck, the suffix is as stiff as spider wire, and most of you have been spoiled on braid by the weaker products. Try power pro, or magi braid then tell me I don't need braid.

X2 From the company that brought you Vanish  :... Fireline, Fireline Chrystal, Fireline Braid, it doesn't matter its all trash. I don't care if the new Fireline Braid has 8-strands, 20-strands, or 36-strands, Power Pro is still the best out there, maybe behind Daiwa Samurai braid which I have yet to try.

[Willzx225]

Braid is just another tool.  It is great in some applications (ie. heavy grass) and not so good in other applications (ie. rock) as apparent by this conversation.  I agree though that 30lb might be a little small for bottom baits but would be a good choice for moving baits.  My vote would be for Suffix or Power Pro in 65lb. Although my buddy who fishes heavy grass year round in LA has switched to Diawa Samuri braid from Power Pro and says it is the best braid he has used.

[DINK WHISPERER]

Fireline, and suffix are the cheap mans power pro. I have used all of them, and the berkley products suck, the suffix is as stiff as spider wire, and most of you have been spoiled on braid by the weaker products. Try power pro, or magi braid then tell me I don't need braid.

X2 From the company that brought you Vanish :... Fireline, Fireline Chrystal, Fireline Braid, it doesn't matter its all trash. I don't care if the new Fireline Braid has 8-strands, 20-strands, or 36-strands, Power Pro is still the best out there, maybe behind Daiwa Samurai braid which I have yet to try.

Hmmmmmmm, FireLine Braid is stronger, limper, smaller diameter, rounder so less wear on guides, quieter, less color fade....................yeah, your right, GEEEEZ, what was i thinking!!!!!!

;)

[Tin]

Wisconsin....grass...pike,pickeral, and muskie????  :-/ :-X

[sweet daddy]

I like the sound power pro makes when it flies through the guides, and that unmistakable sound it makes on the hook set. I have used all the fireline's, and I don't care if they are limp, hold color, or are a smaller diameter they still cant hold a candle to power pro.

[dodgeguy]

I like the sound power pro makes when it flies through the guides, and that unmistakable sound it makes on the hook set. I have used all the fireline's, and I don't care if they are limp, hold color, or are a smaller diameter they still cant hold a candle to power pro.

you're joking!!!powerpro is outdated.it was once the best but it's day is over.

[RobbyZ5001]

unless you are tieing terrible knots or getting cut on rocks 50 and 65 lb fireline or sufix braid will explode your rod before it snaps.

Snapped that on hooksets too. It wasn't the knots I was tying or due to fishing in rock. Braid just doesn't deal real well with sudden or hard hooksets.

Having zero stretch means something has to give. It's usually the rod if the drag is cranked all the way down. I think it mainly boils down to poor abrasion resistance, braid is not so good in that category.

I agree with Jimzee. I learned the hard way when I was in two BFL's. I lost 4 fish total by the line snapping. . I switched two Gamma and only use braid for frogs now.