magnetic braking

[snapshotmd]

I've just started noticing that some bc reels don't have the magnetic braking adjustment.  Why is this?  Is there a advantage/disadvantage to having the mag brakes?

[BrianinMD]

No adjustment at all? Some of them you have to remove the cover opposite the handle to adjust, never seen one without any adjustment.

[islandbass]

reels with mag brakes usually have a dial that adjusts the brake's setting.

reels with centrifugal brake usually have a sideplate that needs to be opened to set the brakes.

There are some reels that use a combination of the two to answer your question, the reason those reels don't have a magnetic brake adjustment dial is most likely because the reel in question does not use magnetic brakes.  Out of curiosity, what reel are you referring to?

[iceintheveins]

I do prefer an externally adjustable braking system, but the more expensive reels with dual brakes (both magnetic and centrifugal) seem to backlash less.

[burleytog]

Centrifugal braking = set it and forget it.  I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to adjust any of my Shimanos.  Buy the reel, activate two brakes and never touch them again.

[BrianinMD]

Couldn't agree with you more Burley, the centrifugal brakes were easy to get setup up and once I did never touch them...

the magnetic brake reel i don't use anymore was a mess never could get a good setting for it no matter what I did. and it didn't have a dial on the outside. to adjust the mag brakes you had to remove the cover.

[Raul]

I do prefer an externally adjustable braking system, but the more expensive reels with dual brakes (both magnetic and centrifugal) seem to backlash less.

More expensive reels with dual braking systems ....... which ones ?  

Lets 'see:

Revo S --> centrifugal

Citica --> centrifugal

Curado --> centrifugal

Revo SX ---> magnetic

Viento ---> magnetic

Zillion ---> magnetic

Revo STX ---> magnetic

Chronarch ---> centrifugal

Core ---> centrifugal

Revo Premier ----> magnetic

Sol---> magnetic

Fuego ---> magnetic

Steez ---> magnetic

Calais ---> centrifugal

Calais DC ---> digital

Calcuttas non DC ---> centrifugal

Calcutta DC ---> digital

Cardiff ---> centrifugal

Energy PT---> centrifugal

None of them have dual brakes.   :-?

[Stasher1]

Pflueger Summit, Supreme, and Patriarch

BPS Johnny Morris Elite and Signature Series

BPS Pro Qualifier, Rick Clunn, ProLite Finesse,

[Raul]

Pflueger Summit, Supreme, and Patriarch

BPS Johnny Morris Elite and Signature Series

BPS Pro Qualifier, Rick Clunn, ProLite Finesse,

Man, them must be really good ....... don 't got as single one of them.  :

[Stasher1]

Man, them must be really good ....... don 't got as single one of them. :

So now we determine a reel's quality by whether or not you have one in your collection? That is by far the most pompous and asinine statement I've seen you make in all my time here.

[Raul]

Man, them must be really good ....... don 't got as single one of them. :

So now we determine a reel's quality by whether or not you have one in your collection? That is by far the most pompous and asinine statement I've seen you make in all my time here.

Better get used to it.

[Stasher1]

I'm impressed, Raul, really. You managed to watanabe in a thread that had absolutely nothing to do with you. Give yourself a nice pat on the back for me, friend. :

[dodgeguy]

Pflueger Summit, Supreme, and Patriarch

BPS Johnny Morris Elite and Signature Series

BPS Pro Qualifier, Rick Clunn, ProLite Finesse,

Man, them must be really good ....... don 't got as single one of them. :

dudes,calm down!!!raul knows more about fishing than most people.                                                                                            raul,get a patriarch and come into the modern times!!!you won't regret it. ;D

[cart7t]

I've just started noticing that some bc reels don't have the magnetic braking adjustment. Why is this? Is there a advantage/disadvantage to having the mag brakes?

Magnetic brakes have been around since the first "low profile" baitcasters came out in the early 80's. (Technically, those reels weren't much smaller than the old round reels of the day but they were the predecesors of todays LP reels)

At that time most all BC reels had centrifugal brakes (though they didn't call them that). They were normally 2 pin affairs that were on all the time. They were not adjustable though Garcia allowed you to change the size of the brakes. Had those not been on those reels they'd probably have sold very few Baitcasters as casting one with no brakes resulted in a backlash most of the time. That's still true today.

The mag brakes were meant to help overcome peoples problem's with spool thumbing towards the end of the cast. It was initially a sales gimmick used to interest more people into overcoming their fears of BC equipment.

It worked.

Technically, if you're an experienced baitcaster, a cent. brake reel is all you need. Centrifugal brakes come into play at the very beginning of the cast, a time when spool control is very difficult to judge and maintain. The rest of the cast is left up to an educated thumb to make sure your spool rotation doesn't spin faster than the lure is taking out line.

A mag break only reel, one that has no centrifugal brake at all, will rely more on adjusting the spool tension knob up higher in order to keep the spool from over spinning on the initial cast. Unfortunately, this also maintains a constant tension on the spool throughout the cast on the spool shaft thus taking away distance potential.

The exception to this would be the Daiwa mag braking which is different than most other mag braking. The Daiwa system actually has the mag brake mech interacting with the spool throughout the cast vs most others which have a fixed mechanism.

Dual brake reels are basically the best of both worlds.

Most guys that use them keep the mag brake turned off for much of the time and only use it when the wind picks up or they switch to a higher profile lure that tends to hang in the air on a cast. For example, I was throwing my dual brake patriarch this past week at KY lake into a stiff wind almost all week AND rarely had to ever thumb the reel. I got very, very few backlashes.

They don't guarantee you'll never get a backlash but it's rare when one happens.

[LAO162]

More expensive reels with dual braking systems ....... which ones ?

Lets 'see:

Revo S --> centrifugal

Citica --> centrifugal

Curado --> centrifugal

Revo SX ---> magnetic

Viento ---> magnetic

Zillion ---> magnetic

Revo STX ---> magnetic

Chronarch ---> centrifugal

Core ---> centrifugal

Revo Premier ----> magnetic

Sol---> magnetic

Fuego ---> magnetic

Steez ---> magnetic

Calais ---> centrifugal

Calais DC ---> digital

Calcuttas non DC ---> centrifugal

Calcutta DC ---> digital

Cardiff ---> centrifugal

Energy PT---> centrifugal

None of them have dual brakes. :-?

Wow, a Quantum was even included in the Group ;D ;D

When it comes to quality equipment, I think Raul provides some sage advice. However, when it comes to budgets, he tries to entice others to the dark side.

I've only used centrifugal braking systems, but have been intrigued by dual brakes.  Pfluger annoys me for not offering the Patriarch in LH retrieve.

[adclem]

Centrifugal braking = set it and forget it. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to adjust any of my Shimanos. Buy the reel, activate two brakes and never touch them again.

How very very true.

Later,

[dodgeguy]

a patriarch with dual brakes adjusted right will outcast anybody thumbing a reel during the cast.the only time you need to thumb it is when you want to stop it.welcome to the modern times when thumbing is obsolete. ;D

[roadwarrior]

Centrifugal braking = set it and forget it. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to adjust any of my Shimanos. Buy the reel, activate two brakes and never touch them again.

Geez...Nothin' to talk about.

8-)