winch?

[jmorton]

First post, back in the saddle after about five years of travel/work with no fishing.  Recently have been assembling an arsenal if you will, with Powell rods and Revos, STX's with a couple of both speeds and am in need of a cranking reel.  Looks like the reviews are that the Winch handles larger cranks better than the smaller (lighter).  Would like to stay with Revos if possible but if there are any recommendations of a cranking reel that would feel similar but work on the small stuff I'd appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.

[Micro]

If you like the Revo STX, just get one in 6.4:1 speed.  It will handle smaller cranks just fine.   It's not a problem at all adapting your retrieve speed to make it work for you.

[jmorton]

Thanks for the reply, my question is on the Winch ability to cast smaller crankbaits.  As this reel is designed for cranking I'm looking for experience in this matter, and I prefer a ratio of 5.4:1 or less.

[Micro]

From experience, the Winch does not cast light crankbaits that well. Having used both the Winch, STX and every other Revo, the STX 6.4:1 is the better reel for casting crankbaits below 1/2 oz. If you want to stay with Revos, you either go with the Winch, which may be disappointing to you for casting light baits, or go with a different, but slightly faster, Revo. You also have the option of ordering a 5.4:1 gear set (main gear and pinion) from Abu Garcia and installing it in the Revo of your choice.

The problem (and it's a characteristic, really, not a problem) is that the Winch has a deep spool that holds a lot of line. When that spool is full of line, it weighs a lot. It takes quite a bit to get that spool going. A heavy bait is better at that than a light bait. It will also spin longer and may overrun on a light bait that slows down quckly.

In my experience, the Winch is an excellent reel for casting swimbaits and  1/2 oz+ baits a long way. For light baits, there are better choices.

If you care to move away from the Revo line, there are other good choices.  The Daiwa Zillion High Power is a very good choice.  If you are used to the feel of Revos, this reel will feel good to you.  It palms better than the Revo because the pawl cap is covered by part of the frame so it doesn't hit your finger when palming the reel.  It's got a 4.9:1 speed.  In my experience, it handles light baits better than the Winch, and heavier baits just as well.   It's more expensive, though.  

[jmorton]

ok, so back to my original post, what cranking reel that would feel similar when switching rods to the Revo's and handle say 1/4 oz crankbaits?

[Micro]

See my post above.  I was editing while you were posting.

[Micro]

If you think you will be mainly casting light cranks, the Daiwa Sol is another good choice. It's a little smaller, but not so much that it feels odd. It has a 5.8:1 speed (22 inches per turn) and cast light bait very, very well. It's wee bit more expensive than the Winch. But for light baits, it has few equals.

[jmorton]

How about the Revo S, or Curado E5?

[Micro]

In my experience, the Revo S casts everything as well as the STX. The STX may be a wee bit better, but in practical use they are pretty much identical in performance. The only problem is, it doesn't come in the ratio you want. But for the price, you can order a gear set (I think it's around $30) and turn your 6.4:1 Revo S into a 5.4:1 reel - and still come out cheaper than an STX. Swapping out the gears is a matter of remove-and-replace.

The E5 will handle light baits well, but its going to feel quite a bit different than the Revo.  I used to own a Curado 200DPV 5.0:1 reel.  It had the same spool as the E5.  It cast light baits very well.  In fact, Curado 200DPVs can still be had out there, and they are usually cheaper than the new E5s.  The Curado 200DPV is an excellent reel.  Again, though, it will feel different than the Revo since its a bit bigger.   But there's no reason you can't have and use two different types.

I just remembered that Tackle Warehouse got some more Shimano Chronarchs in.  This may be the best way to go...

http://www.***.com/descpageRLCSHIMANO-SHCHBPV.html

[booneangler]

where can you get the parts to switch the revo's over to a 5.4.1?

[Micro]

Order the gear set here...

Abu Garcia

1900 18th Street

Spirit Lake, IA, 51360;

1.800.228.4272

[burleytog]

I used to own a Curado 200DPV 5.0:1 reel. It had the same spool as the E5.

:-?

[Micro]

I used to own a Curado 200DPV 5.0:1 reel. It had the same spool as the E5.

:-?

:-/  Aren't the spools the same?  I thought that was the big diffference between the 200E and the 200D, the E has a smaller frame (while retaining the same spool)?

If that's wrong, let me know.  

[burleytog]

The spools aren't the same.

[skunked_again]

If you think you will be mainly casting light cranks, the Daiwa Sol is another good choice. It's a little smaller, but not so much that it feels odd. It has a 5.8:1 speed (22 inches per turn) and cast light bait very, very well. It's wee bit more expensive than the Winch. But for light baits, it has few equals.

ya, im going to have to agree on the Daiwa Sol. its worth every penny.

[Micro]

The spools aren't the same.

Cae to elaborate?  Minor, and cosmetic, differences not withstanding, what'd the difference?

[burleytog]

Besides being different spools with different part numbers?

The spool for the D-series was bigger and heavier.

[Micro]

Differing colors will cause the part numbers to be different.  As far as "bigger" goes, they have exactly the same line cpacity.   Frankly, except for color, they look exactly alike to me.  

[Stasher1]

A quick search turned up this:

That's a 200DHSV on the left and a 200E7 on the right.

The spool is essentially the same as the one found in the 200D with the exception of some minor machining differences and overall shaft length.

http://www.anglergear.net/icast-2008-the-aftermath-a-random-list-of-the-top-i-want-that-items-part-3/