Knot for Fluoro leader/fusion line

[rubba bubba]

Hello, I use fusions on several of my reels and have been tying fluoro leaders to them, however whenever I test the strength of the connection, it breaks on the fluoro knot.  i.e. like the fluoro is cutting itself.

I've tried the Uni to Uni knot as well as the Surgeons knot with results the same - the knots don't hold up to anywhere close to 95% of the line strength.

I am using 12 lbs fusion line (sometimes 10, sometimes 14) and 12 lbs fluoro for the leader.  Any help for me on this would be immensely appreciated.

[alabamabass]

do you wet the knot before you run it tite?

[Under the Radar]

As stated before make sure you moisten the line before you tighten it. My pref is the blood knot (it's smaller diameter and passes thru the eyes better) and then the uni to uni.

[Jig Man]

Try the Alberto's knot.

[Big Bait Fishing]

use a uni-to-uni knot , make sure you wet the knots good . i use this all the time cause i use power pro braid ( 30 lb. ) and join a 3-6 ft. leader of flouro for all my fishing ( cranks ,dropshots , topwater , jigs , shakeyhead , etc.... )  

[iceintheveins]

I do well with the uni to uni knot. What type of fluorocarbon are you using? Are you using the old spiderwire fusion line? That stuff was garbage.

[rubba bubba]

Yes, I definitely moisten the line.

One reel has some of the old Spiderwire fusion but the others I use Berkely Fireline Crystal; however it's the fluoro uni knot that fails each time.

The fluoro I use is Berkely's Vanish.

I have literally tied close to 100 uni to uni's with similar results - it holds but just not anywhere close to the line strength.

[Jaheff]

Thats your problem, your using Vanish.Its junk

[Uncle Leo]

I have had great difficulty getting a uni knot to hold with Crystal, just too slick I think. Knots Hold about 50% of the time.

[TonyD2001]

I have used a uni to uni with 30# Power Pro to a 4' Seaguars floro leader and had good results.  

[rubba bubba]

Out of curiousity, why is Vanish junk?  I do have some 10lbs Bpro XPS fluoro that I'll give it a try in a minute.  Not sure if that's any better, though.

I just tied a bunch more and the Crystal holds better than the Spiderwire, but it still breaks.  It appears that it's not the fluoro knot cutting itself but either the fusion knot cuts the fluoro knot or the fusion knot cuts the line itself just.  

The evidence from the lines after the break occurs appear to be conflicting:

- the fluoro leader end (below the uni to uni knot) is straight - i.e. there's no crinkles that you would expect if it broke inside the fluoro knot.  It's like a normal piece of cut line.

- the fluro knot itself is somewhat unraveled, looking like it did break within the fluoro knot.  i.e. it looks like the knot cut itself

[rubba bubba]

Ok it does appear to be the Vanish.  The Vanish leader was 12lbs fluoro; I just tied a 10lbs XPS fluoro leader on and I couldn't break it.

What are the preferred fluoros to use, that are reasonably priced?  I liked the Vanish because it was more supple and had much less memory than the Bpro XPS fluoro.  And the Vanish was easier on the wallet as fluoros go.

[iceintheveins]

Yes, I definitely moisten the line.

One reel has some of the old Spiderwire fusion but the others I use Berkely Fireline Crystal; however it's the fluoro uni knot that fails each time.

The fluoro I use is Berkely's Vanish.

I have literally tied close to 100 uni to uni's with similar results - it holds but just not anywhere close to the line strength.

I had a feeling you were using vanish. It's crap.

[iceintheveins]

My favorite fluoro leader is the P - Line fluoro leader that comes in small 25 yd spools.

[iceintheveins]

Vanish is the most weak, brittle junk ever, and spiderwire fusion is the worst line I have ever used. That was your entire problem.

[J Francho]

My favorite fluoro leader is the P - Line fluoro leader that comes in small 25 yd spools.

Its P-Line CFX.  Very good stuff.

[iceintheveins]

My favorite fluoro leader is the P - Line fluoro leader that comes in small 25 yd spools.

Its P-Line CFX. Very good stuff.

That would be it. The best fluoro leader there is.