since braid is so strong

[triwbass]

do you really need a 7ft6" heavy flippoing stick i mean braid is not gonna brak so do you really need the broom stick ....reason i ask is i dont like the feel of heavy and some medium heavy rods they are not as sensitive ,,,,all star makes a 845mc mag cast rds 7ft medium i was thinking of putting 65lb braid on it and t being my frog and pitching rod and maybe light fdlipping ,,,does anone use this techinique or agree disagree with this ?

[Raul]

do you really need a 7ft6" heavy flippoing stick i mean braid is not gonna brak so do you really need the broom stick ...

Flipping rods are built long and broomstick like to be used as a lever to pull the fish out of the cover.

reason i ask is i dont like the feel of heavy and some medium heavy rods they are not as sensitive

Get better quality rods

[Micro]

What Raul said.  A flipping rod is tantamount to a crane boom.

[Tuckman]

If I had to get rid of my 7'6 hvy flippin stick I would sell my boat and take up golf

[Grey Wolf]

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do you really need a 7ft6" heavy flippoing stick i mean braid is not gonna brak so do you really need the broom stick ....reason i ask is i dont like the feel of heavy and some medium heavy rods they are not as sensitive ,,,,all star makes a 845mc mag cast rds 7ft medium i was thinking of putting 65lb braid on it and t being my frog and pitching rod and maybe light fdlipping ,,,does anone use this techinique or agree disagree with this ?

YES.

[bigmountaineer]

It's all about leverage. That 7'6" helps you flip the bait in the right area, but also helps pull em out.

Trust me you can get a nice rod , I know there's a carrot stix gold 7'6' HF in the flea market for $180 that's a nice light rod.

But yes you need it.

[hawgchaser]

Nobody needs a 7'6" but some prefer it. I prefer a 7" rod over a 7'6" bit non of this has anything to do braid.

[Raul]

Well, I had to go so I couldn 't add more to the thread, but since it 's a slow day at the kitty/doggy hospital here 's more food for thought.

they are not as sensitive

I said, get better quality rods. That helps, but in techniques like flipping what you are able to feel with the rod is only half important, the other important half is what you don 't feel and what you see.

The concept of what you "don 't feel" doesn 't alaways get into the people who are used to fish jigs and flippable baits ( like worms, grubs, tubes & creatures ) in the most conventional ways, they are used to fish baits on the bottom and maintaing contact with it, they are also used to experience the fish biting the bait, the famous tap-tap.

When you flip or pitch the bait is not presented on the bottom, it 's presented off it, when the fish hit the bait they hit it on the fall as it sinks, if you are waiting for the tap-tap you can wait all day long not knowing that the fish have bit the bait in many ocassions; when you flip or pitch you have to be aware that the fish will hit the bait on the fall and therefore there will be no tap-tap.

What you don 't "feel" ? you don 't feel the drag of the bait pulling the line as it sinks when a fish hits the bait, when a fish hits the bait on the fall you get the "feel" of the bait suddenly dissapearing from the end of your line. If you don 't pay attention you will miss the fish.

Also important, how come you flip or pitch to a target and don 't watch the line all the time your bait is in the water ? a lot of times the only thing you can notice when a fish has the bait is that the line moves.

[triwbass]

no i am with ya on those points im all for better rods i am using all all star im10 rods now that i just purchsed a 7ft mh 846c carolina rig ,,,ill probably use it more for flipping or pitching or chunking a frog,,,,,, its kinda of a middle road for me here its not a 7'6 flipping stick but not real light either

[dodgeguy]

get a johnny morris 7-6 flipping stick with berkley fireline 65 lb braid and cure all your sensitivity issues.if you can't feel with that rod and line then your nerves are dead.