Daiwa Trillionaire vs. Black Widow II

[Dean]

These are the Trillionaire's specs...

Bearings 10 BB, 1 RB

Gear Ratio   6.3:1  

Weight 9.3 Oz.

Line Capacity (lbs./yds.) 12/150, 14/125

and the Black Widow II's...

Bearings 6BB+1RB

Gear Ratio 6:3:1

Weight 8.6 Oz.

Line Capacity lbs./yards 12/140

Is the only difference the greater weight of the Trillionaire? But then the Trillionaire has more bearings, but if the widow has less are they better quality bearings?   This reel will be used for crankin' and will go on my BPS cranking stick since my other reel on it is broke beyond repair. All help is greatly appreciated 8-)!

[Micro]

I'd go with the Black Widow.  It is based on the Team Daiwa Advantage.  The Trillionaire is based on the Exceler.   IMO, Advantage > Exceler.  

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewdaiwablackwidow2.html

[Dean]

Thanks Micro.  

[burleytog]

I handled a Trillionaire this week.  It isn't a $100 reel IMO.  Any reel based on the Advantage frame is going to be superior to those based on the Exceller frame.

[Dean]

Thanks Ron!   I plan on getting my Black Widow very soon!

[J Francho]

I have two Black Widows.  Nice little reel, a little on the wide side, but comfortable anyway.  Well made.  I'd go with the Black Widow over the Trillionaire.  

BTW, the Exceler is based on the JDM Aggrest, which has versions ranging from $185 to $260.  I'm pretty sure its meant to be a light saltwater reel.

[Raul]

The differences are not only mechanical, the Black Widow is based on the Advantage therefore more reel, but, the Black Widow is a limited edition reel while the other is not.

The Black Widow is a reel manufactured by Daiwa that was sold in limited numbers and distributed only in California. It 's not a 2003, 2005 or 2005 Pixy, nor a TDZ Type R, Type R+, TD103H Itö, Alphas Itö or something like that, but still has the panàge of a reel not easy to find everywhere readily available.

Advantage based, bling colors, not readily available ---> Black Widow hands down.

[J Francho]

Poor man's Presso

[NHfroggin]

how does the Black widow hold up against the citica e there in the same price range?

[firefightn15]

The differences are not only mechanical, the Black Widow is based on the Advantage therefore more reel, but, the Black Widow is a limited edition reel while the other is not.

The Black Widow is a reel manufactured by Daiwa that was sold in limited numbers and distributed only in California. It 's not a 2003, 2005 or 2005 Pixy, nor a TDZ Type R, Type R+, TD103H Itö, Alphas Itö or something like that, but still has the panàge of a reel not easy to find everywhere readily available.

Advantage based, bling colors, not readily available ---> Black Widow hands down.

The Black Widow was also availed in the spinning model based on the TDA 2500.  Both preform as well as their Avantage counterparts.  They look great on Carrot sticks also.  Here's pics of the reels: