Silver Thread Excalibur

[Redhed]

I came across a good deal on this line in 12lb and 4lb and bought quite a few yards of it. i have never used a copolymer line before. is this line good? how does it rank with others and can i apply line conditioner to it (reel magic or KVD)?

[Dan:]

It is great stuff. I find it very similar to Yo Zuri Ultra Soft in regards to manageability. I don't use line conditioner, but you probably won't need it very much, especially for the 4lb test. The 12lb test might need it but not as much as other lines. It is very limp.

[Redhed]

i wasnt sure how many of you use it.. is it tough liek they say it is? never used a copolymer before. noticed its thin which is what i want.. i assume conditioners are good for copolymers as well as the others? thanks guys!

[Wayne P.]

Redhed, a fishing line advertized as "tough' means absolutely nothing unless it states what it is compared to. I have braids, nylon mono, co-polymers, and fluorocarbon lines that have one or more of the following words on the package:" low stretch", "excellent knot strength", "low memory", "tough", "strong", "low visibility", "world's strongest", "soft", "thin", manageable, and several other adjectives.

I know from use that braids have low or no stretch, but I have some fluorocarbon lines and nylon mono lines that have low stretch on the package too and no way are either low stretch as compared to braids.

P-Line CXX is the most unmanageable line with the most memory I have ever tried. Here are the statements on the package: extra strong, virtually invisible, extra limp, high breaking strength, great castability, low memory, soft and supple, high knot strength, increased sensitivity, extra abrasion resistant coating.  About ½ of those are false as compared to most monos.

[roadwarrior]

P-Line CXX is the most unmanageable line with the most memory I have ever tried. Here are the statements on the package: extra strong, virtually invisible, extra limp, high breaking strength, great castability, low memory, soft and supple, high knot strength, increased sensitivity, extra abrasion resistant coating. About ½ of those are false as compared to most monos.

Hmm...

I used to fish P-Line, but I guess I never read the label.

"extra limp", "low memory", "soft and supple" are outright

lies.

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[BUCKEYEone]

Agree 1000% on the CXX, I bought that after hearing someone on here speak highly of it, and all I use it for now is backing better line!  It has so much memory I don't know if it will ever come off the spool!  I think you really just have to try them out and see what you favor.

[Redhed]

guys, i know not to pay too close attention to marketing thats why i was asking you guys that have TRIED it. is it tough? i have never fished with a coplymer before. hence all the quesitons .. what are some things to look for in this line? bad memory? crappy knot strength? etc etc....

[Wayne P.]

Redhed, blended copolymers (not coated) on average are a more manageable line. I like the Silver Thread because of its smaller per pound test diameter for cranking and finesse presentations. It is comparable to Trilene XL in size. I would not classify any blended copolymer lines as tough. Tough to me means a harder, stiffer, larger diameter line. If you compare the diameters of Trilene XL and XT in the same pound test, they are different diameters with the XT having all of the before mentioned characteristics as compared to XL.

The short answer to your question about Silver Thread being tough -no it is not.

[Redhed]

dang... i guess i should have went up to 14#'s oh well. ill make do with the 3000 yds of 12# lol... curious on the abrasion factor as well. i thought the excalibur was 100% copolymer instead of a coating

[Wayne P.]

Redhed, Silver Thread is a blended coplymer. It is not a coated line.

[Tuffy]

Strong but it has high spool memory...This has to be the old Bagleys black label re-named.. I think I still have pony partial spool of Bagleys black 14lb .

If you've used it , it's great fishing pads, but if presentation and finesse is in order, I'd rank it as one of the all time worst lines..

Truth be told, you are better going to a heavier line weight in AN40 than using this.

[johnD.]

I use Silver Thread a lot. I usually don't treat it with anything. 

[Deleted account]

I like silver thread in lighter tests for spinning. I find it a bit to fragile for BCs, but I'm used to BG there, so it's almost not a fair comparison. I don't see enough difference between it and XL (which is the admiral's favorite) to get both. Over all a good line.

[FishTank]

I tried in the past in (I think) 12lb.  It did not perform well for me.  In this type of line, I like Big Game and CXX.