Bad to da Bass Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 So what is all the craze about these line conditioners for? Are they really that good? If so what brand should I use? 8-) Quote
rynobass Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Line conditioners are great they take the memory out of your line and they help the line from being damaged by uv rays of the sun. also good on those cold day it help keep ice from forming on eyelets of your rods I like blakemore reel magic and Ardent line butter they both are great products Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted February 9, 2009 Super User Posted February 9, 2009 Line conditioners are great they take the memory out of your line and they help the line from being damaged by uv rays of the sun. also good on those cold day it help keep ice from forming on eyelets of your rods I like blakemore reel magic and Ardent line butter they both are great productsId be careful and not mix any line conditioners with each other i use KVD L& L and your not supposed to mix it with anything chemical reactions can weaken ur line i used reel magic for a long time and it was OK then i found KVD never looked back so much better no residue no oily feeling no smell stick with one Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 There is only one to use KVD ! All the others just wish they could be as good! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 There is only one to use KVD ! All the others just wish they could be as good! Nothin' to talk about! 8-) Quote
gabes Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 KVD is the way to go. A little higher price than Real Magic but a better product. Stuff works great. Highly recommended! Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 I was like you last year, wondering if they actually did any good. Then went a got a bottle of KVD to try it out.....will never go without it now. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 I tired it, much to do about nothing. Strange how after fishing for years,line memory has become such a problem. Quote
NOVA Angler Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 I tired it, much to do about nothing. Strange how after fishing for years,line memory has become such a problem. So you don't notice any difference in line memory between mono and fluoro? The first time I ever put PLine Fluoro on my baitcasting setup I took it off after fishing a day with it and swore I would never use the stuff again. The Trilene 100% Fluoro in combination with the KVD line and lure conditioner has been the only exception for me. I honestly don't know how anyone could not tell the difference between Fluoro and Mono. I think line memory has always been an issue with Flouro, it's just that many were willing to sacrifice some performance aspects for other benefits that Fluoro provides. The KVD helps get some of that manageability back. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 I tired it, much to do about nothing. Strange how after fishing for years,line memory has become such a problem. Kinda like black & white television, 45 records and dial-up internet, don't you think? 8-) Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 I decided to stay with mono, having seen no real advantage with the floro. I don't have tip wrap issues since I switched from spinning gear to baitcasting and I tried and saw no real advantage with line conditioner. The question as stated did not differentiate between types of line. Since I do not use floro, I am not qualified to answer it in that respect I can, from experience say I saw no advantages while using mono Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 I tired it, much to do about nothing. Strange how after fishing for years,line memory has become such a problem. Kinda like black & white television, 45 records and dial-up internet, don't you think? 8-) Gee I never though of it that way. I saw a colorized version of the Maltese Falcon, to tell you the truth it looks better in black and white. 8-) Phil Spector records and his wall of sound sounded way better on vinyl There is nothing wrong with old ways, some are comfortable with them I gave an answer based on my experience and preferances and you fellas have yours Quote
MitchIsFishin Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Muddy Wrote:I don't have tip wrap issues Why did you have tip wrap issues? Only with fluro or Mono too? Never had this happen. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 I was getting this with deep diving cranks a lot with spinning gear., I used a swivel, I made sure that my line was spooled the way it came off the feeder spool. I switched over to baitcasting, with the help and guidance of some here, and i have never experienced it with bait cating. I hardly ever used spinning gear last year and i suspect except for pan fishing i will contiue to rely on baitcasting. Quote
NOVA Angler Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 I decided to stay with mono, having seen no real advantage with the floro. I don't have tip wrap issues since I switched from spinning gear to baitcasting and I tried and saw no real advantage with line conditioner. The question as stated did not differentiate between types of line. Since I do not use floro, I am not qualified to answer it in that respect I can, from experience say I saw no advantages while using mono Yeah, I sprayed some on mono and didn't notice any difference either. I don't know what I was expecting since I've never really had any castability problems with mono. Just figured why not. If by chance one day you come to your senses and decide to buy a She-mano baitcasting reel and while your at it decide what the heck, I'm gonna put some Fluoro on this bad boy, I would recommend that you get the KVD. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 10, 2009 Super User Posted February 10, 2009 Thats very ;D. I am a stubborn old fart . Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I bought 3 bottles of the KVD line conditioner. Now what do I do with what I have left of the Reel Magic ? Throw it away? :-/ Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I like Reel Magic to keep things clean on my reels, not the line. Especially between lubes. It's also good for ratchet wrenches and all kinds of metallic tools , clamps, pad and combo locks you use outdoors , etc. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I bought 3 bottles of the KVD line conditioner. Now what do I do with what I have left of the Reel Magic ? Throw it away? :-/ No. It's nothing more than silicone spray and can be used as a substitute for WD-40. 8-) Quote
MitchIsFishin Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 Muddy, what were you doing using a swivel with a crank???? Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I learned a long time ago to avoid twist I take the tag end of the line and put a small swivel onto it, NOT A SNAP SWIVEL a good quality ball bearing swivel , then a leader of 12 to 14 inches and then to the crank, it really does decrease the need to let the line off the reel so many times during a 12 hour day on the water. You might want to try it some time, I learned that a long time ago from an article on reducing twist in the 3 or 4 edition of In Fisherman Magazine. In this case, on days of a really good bite, when deep cranking it becomes difficult not to reel while the fish is taking line against the drag. After several fish you wind up with twist, since it is very hard to stop reeling in completely at the moment each fish is taking out line against the drag. For many years I only used spinning equipment and no matter what , twist becomes an issue. Using a barrel or bearing on a line with a leader does not effect a lures action and depth the way a snap swivel right at the lure does. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 In subfreezing temps, Reel Magic will keep mono from absorbing water, and freezing. Several applications are necessary throughout the day. In all cases, I treat my line with KVD, regardless if I'm going to spray it Reel Magic. KVD does do something that actually improves the line. Reel Magic simply displaces water, temporarily. Unless you fish very cold weather, all you need for your line is KVD. Quote
Redhed Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 well dang i just bought reel magic for the first time.. what is so bad about it? i know folks who swear by it for line conditioning and they have never caught less fish than before when using it so why is it not worth the $$? just asking bc i am quite curious thanks fellas Quote
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