Revo SX Question

[booneangler]

I have just got into these Revo SX. Now for some reason i can setup my Revo SX's to cast a Crankbait and the reel has a tendency to get loose line during the cast and wants to backlash. Now i have the Revo S's and they dont seem to do that. Is there something im doing wrong. Im no rookie on Baitcasters i just started getting into the Revo's but cant understand what needs to be done i can set the brake on the left side to max and it will still do it. I set the knob on the right so that the crankbait will fall slowly but it will still kinda back lash. What can i do to make this stop. Any ideas?

[paragon]

I have the same story. I can cast the S a mile but my SX always seems to want to get away from me. I have tried new line, and every combination of settings. I just put on another line and I plan on getting out tomm. to give it a try.This reel is making a baitcasting vet like me feel real dumb.

[booneangler]

is there something inside you half to do?

[Micro]

I've been fishing the Revo SX since they come out.  

The problem is that your spool is spinning too fast during the cast.  The spool tension knob, not the brake, controls spool speed.  The brake controls deceleration.

Set your brake to zero.  Then adjust your spool tension knob so that when you push the thumbar whatever lure you are using falls to the ground with a little jiggle of the rod tip.  (It's it's falling to the floor without a jiggle, it's set too loose.)  Now start casting.  Watch your spool during the cast.  Continue to tighten the spool tension knob just until the line barely does what its doing, but not more.  When it gets to this point you can control it further with your thumb.  When increasing the spool tnesion knob, adjust it in miniscule increments.  

Then watch what your spool does once the lure hits the water/ground.  If it loops up then, increase your brake setting.  I find that about 25% brake works for 90% of the fishing I do with the reel.  

Once you have it set, you will get fantastic casting distance with minimal thumb input.

Do not rely on articles telling you to set the spool tension knob so that the lure drops to the floor and the spool continues to turn 1/4 or 1/2 or whatever.  That may work for some reels, but it is way too loose for the Revo SX.

The reason the SX is different from the S in this respect is the brake.  The centrifugal brake on the S does have an impact on spool speed IMO.  The magnetic brake on the SX much less so.   I've done lots of casting with both and compared the dynamics of the cast to know this is the case.

[Jeff H]

I get a little bit on most throws with mine, doesn't bother me as it seems to play out by the end of the cast.  In cases where it doesn't, a little bit of rod sweep clears it out before I began to reel.

[booneangler]

Micro thanks for that info.

[paragon]

"Miniscule" indeed. Went out early this morning got her hummin know, I was adjusting tension knob click to click. It is still a little touchy but I'll work it out.

[Micro]

Yep.  Sometimes one click makes a lot of difference.

[booneangler]

i will try it later this week. thanks again will let you know how it does.

[adclem]

So the Revo S has a centrifugal braking system, correct?  While the SX and STX has a magnetic, correct?  How do you adjust or do you adjust the braking system on the Revo S?

Thanks,

[21farms]

So the Revo S has a centrifugal braking system, correct? While the SX and STX has a magnetic, correct? How do you adjust or do you adjust the braking system on the Revo S?

the SX and STX has both centrifugal and magnetic brakes.

on the S, you can switch any of the six centrifugal brakes on/off by clicking them in and out of the locked position by removing the sideplate (the factory default setting is 2 on/4 off). you can also loosen/tighten the cast control knob.

fwiw, my experience between the S and SX has been completely different. i can cast the SX a mile but get far less with the S regardless of settings. i even returned my first S because i thought there was something wrong with it but my second S is exactly the same.

[Micro]

the SX and STX has both centrifugal and magnetic brakes.

The Revo S, Winch, Inshore and Skeet Reese have centrifugal brakes.

The Revo SC, SX, STX and Premier have magnetic brakes.

With Revos (unlike some Pfluegers) it's one or the other, not a combination of both.

[adclem]

I saw on line at BPS that there is a new SX and STX coming that has the centrifugal as well as the magnetic brakes.

Later,

[roadwarrior]

I really don't like the magnetic brakes on my STX.

After being serviced by Reel Mech, it's now resting in its original

box. I haven't decided whether to keep it or not, but I would warn

potential buyers to be wary. It seems to me this system is a failure

which requires constant adjustment.

Many of the guys that are big fans of the STX don't use the brakes at all.

I suppose if you don't use them, they're fine!

[paragon]

By not using the brakes at all , do you mean setting them to zero or disabling them somehow? And does the SX function the same as the STX with the brake @ zero?

[Micro]

RW, I have several Revos with the magnetic brake and I use the brake, like the brake, and after fishing them for a considerable amount of time feel the brake is very refined. I understand you don't like the reel, you make that abundantly clear at any and every opportunity. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

But the simple fact is is that you've been predicting the Revo will fail since they've been out. But it hasn't. The reel has been a huge success and the positive opinions far outweigh the comparatively few negative opinions. Face it, you were wrong, and your predictions of doom and gloom seem silly at this point given the prima facie success of the reel.

And by the way, if you haven't learned to use the reel with one setting for 90% of your fishing, you simply haven't taken the time to learn the reel.  In that regard, your opinion of the brake is underqualified to say the least.

[Micro]

By not using the brakes at all , do you mean setting them to zero or disabling them somehow? And does the SX function the same as the STX with the brake @ zero?

Not using the brake is nonsense.  Do what I said in my earlier post and your reel will cast like a champ.  

[Micro]

I saw on line at BPS that there is a new SX and STX coming that has the centrifugal as well as the magnetic brakes.

Later,

That's an error on the part of BPS.  That's been in their catalog, and people who don't know better, have been repeating it since th reel came out.

BTW, there was a picture of a Revo S with "7.1:1" stamped on the drag in last year's BPS ctalog.  There isn't a 7.1:1 Revo S.

Caveat emptor when it comes to BPS's catalog.

[adclem]

They show them as new products though.  That is to bad, that would have been awesome.

Later,

[Micro]

Can you post a link to what you are talking about?

Edit: Alright. I see what you are talking about. For some reason they have the Revos listed as "new." The product description for the STX doesn't say anything about the centrifugal brake, but the SX does.

This is an error.  The sentence about the brake in the SX description looks like they mixed the STX and Skeet Reese brake descriptions together.   Read the STX and Skeet Reese description and you'll get the SX description.

They made a similar error in their last catalog which generated some confusion. BPS is not known for accuracy in its product descriptions.  (BPS also knocked $.01 off some rods a few months back then advertised a "sale" on them.)  

[SJex]

I agree with Micro, I rarely have to fiddle with the settings after I got it set right. When I first got my SX it seemed finicky, hard to stop overruns. I noticed that I had too much line on the spool, causing it to hit the reel foot. After I cut some line off, no more overruns.

[adclem]

Its amazing how to much line can cause severe problems.

I also noticed this with BPS.  They have the Johnny Morris Signature series reels advertised on sale but then when you look it is only for the wide spool and the rest of them are normal price.

Just weird ways to get you to look and buy.

Later,

[roadwarrior]

And by the way, if you haven't learned to use the reel with one setting for 90% of your fishing, you simply haven't taken the time to learn the reel. In that regard, your opinion of the brake is underqualified to say the least.

After receiving the STX in March, the reel has been used extensively for seven months.

The magnetic braking system requires adjustment for different lures and conditions;

the settings are inconsistant and the system doesn't seem to "remember" how

it has been set previously. Each outing requires re-estabishing both the brake and cast

control. Perhaps you consider this an attribute and would consider the "sensitivity" a

positive feature, I consider it an inconvenience.

I have heard that the magnetic system is being discontinued, you state that it will

continue to be an option. Either way, offering centrifugal brakes is a concession to

the problems I have addressed. If this is in fact the case, perhaps it is your opinion

that is "underqualified".

:

[Micro]

99.9% of users say the brake is fine.  Roadwarrior says it isn't.  Hmmm.  Who will I go with?

You haven't taken the time with the reel.  Or you simply don't want to give a fair assessment.  I suspect it's both.  Given your continual comments that "I only fish Shimano and encourage others to do that same" (as well as other declarations usually followed by "PERIOD") I suspect there is more than just a wee bit of bias in your "review."

But that's okay.  Liike I said, the quality and refinement of the reel has already been assessed above your power at this point to add or detract.

[roadwarrior]

Actually, the STX could be a Shimano: strong, smooth, silent and reliant.

It's beautiful, light and the size makes this a very comfortable reel to fish.

I simply don't like the magnetic braking system.

It appears than Abu Garcia has seen this as an issue in their internal

reviews or interviews with customers. I applaud them for making

changes to improve the reel which will make it more user friendly.

8-)