The Rooster Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I already know I want the BPS Extreme casting REEL, I have one now and love it. I can either get that as a combo though with the rod made for it or I can pair it up with something else, likely the Shimano Clarus. The Extreme combo would go for $130 if it's not on sale even more (haven't checked in a while). Buying the reel and getting the Shimano rod would run me about the same if I can catch the reel on sale again like it was earlier this year. That's how I'd do it if I got the Clarus for it. So it's just a matter of what rod would you get between those two?? Quote
adclem Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 I would go with the Shimano Clarus rod. They are very nice and for the money you can't beat them. I haven't seen them at BPS but have seen them other places for $70.00 I just don't like the power hump grip on the BPS Extreme Rod. Really makes my hand hurt after fishing all day. Later, Quote
The Rooster Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 Well, I'm having another problem too. Might be trivial to some but I really want the spinning rods and casting rods I get to be matching. Not just for looks and all, but mostly cause I figure if they make a good casting rod then they would make a good spinning rod too, and the feeling would be all the same from one rod to another, or so I'm assuming. And I'd like to get away from having a dozen different brand rods out there with me, all feeling different each time I switch from one to another. Anyway, the BPS Extreme (or any other BPS spinning rod too) is made so that the foregrip tightens down on the reel foot to hold it on, but it seems to be a poor design. Look at the catalog where they show the combos for sale and see that none of the reels are fully locked onto the rod. It leaves a few of the threads showing after they are put on. Also it appears to put the reel foot in a bind sort of, like there's not enough room for it to fit under the foregrip as it tightens. And some time ago, I went to a BPS and took my own reel to find a rod for it and had this same experience while in the store, none of the foregrips could tighten down to hold it on without binding the reel foot and bending it to hold it on. And even when tightened it didn't feel fully locked, and it still left a good 3/8 inch gap between the foregrip and the rest of the handle. Felt like it could come loose later on, and the foregrip is where I hold the rod at so it might twist loose just through using it. I'd drop a reel off into the water with it like that! I don't like that at all. Pretty much I don't like BPS spinning rods at all just cause of that. The Shimano rod I'm looking at has an uplocking reel seat with padded hoods to secure the reel, and it doesn't bind at all. That's the only way I will even purchase a spinning rod now is if they are made that way. So if I went with the Extreme for a casting rod, I've already ruled out the spinning versions of it. And if the Clarus is good enough to use as a spinner, then it's good enough for a caster too. I've just read where the Extreme is supposed to be a very superior rod and thought since I'm buying the reel then the combo might be the way to go, but now I think not. Quote
stormrider Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 I just bought the BPS combo ($129). I have only had it for a month but I am very happy with so far. The rod is sensitive for the makeup. I have the 6'6' medium heavy. I don't feel the reel seat is a detriment at all JMHO Hope this helps Quote
The Rooster Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 Did you get a spinning combo or a casting combo?? The spinning rod is the one I don't care for. The casting rods I think would probably be fine. Quote
tyrius. Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Did you get a spinning combo or a casting combo?? The spinning rod is the one I don't care for. The casting rods I think would probably be fine. For the Extremes, I have a MH casting rod and a M spinning rod. You're right in that they are "fine". I got them both on sale and feel like I got a good deal, BUT I will be moving up to a Crucial or the like over the winter for both of these rods. I use them mainly for soft plastics and jigs and want more sensitivity than these offer. I'll use the Extremes for something else, maybe spinnerbaits or something. I haven't had any issues with the reel seat on the spinning rod either. Quote
stormrider Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Did you get a spinning combo or a casting combo?? The spinning rod is the one I don't care for. The casting rods I think would probably be fine. I have the baitcaster Quote
Stasher1 Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Anyway, the BPS Extreme (or any other BPS spinning rod too) is made so that the foregrip tightens down on the reel foot to hold it on, but it seems to be a poor design. Look at the catalog where they show the combos for sale and see that none of the reels are fully locked onto the rod. It leaves a few of the threads showing after they are put on. Also it appears to put the reel foot in a bind sort of, like there's not enough room for it to fit under the foregrip as it tightens. And some time ago, I went to a BPS and took my own reel to find a rod for it and had this same experience while in the store, none of the foregrips could tighten down to hold it on without binding the reel foot and bending it to hold it on. And even when tightened it didn't feel fully locked, and it still left a good 3/8 inch gap between the foregrip and the rest of the handle. Felt like it could come loose later on, and the foregrip is where I hold the rod at so it might twist loose just through using it. I'd drop a reel off into the water with it like that! I don't like that at all. Pretty much I don't like BPS spinning rods at all just cause of that. All of their spinning rods above the Extreme have different reel seats than their mid and lower level rods. The Shimano rod I'm looking at has an uplocking reel seat with padded hoods to secure the reel, and it doesn't bind at all. That's the only way I will even purchase a spinning rod now is if they are made that way. I don't know what your budget is, but you should look at the Pro Qualifier and Johnny Morris Signature or Elite. The '07 model JM Signature model is on clearance for less than $100. I just got back from my local BPS and after fondling every 6'6" MH spinning rod in the $70-$100 range, the JM Sig. had the best feel...even better than the Compre, which kinda surprised to me. I wound up walking out with one. Quote
The Rooster Posted September 20, 2008 Author Posted September 20, 2008 Replied back. Sorry I didn't see it sooner. Quote
cooperbps Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 i have 2 extremes one is a 6,6 med casting, and i have a 7,6 mh flipping stick. i like them both. great rod Quote
Dorkus Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 i have both... i would recomend the extreme rod... its a little more sensitive IMO. the clarus is a great spinning rod, not so much as a casting Quote
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