Flywalker Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 Any one ever use firewire? I have been using clear which is actually white and smoke which is more black that anything. I like it cause it is strong but cast like crap. I have actually been using it for a couple of years on an ultralight for bream fishing. I love it for that. What is the exact purpose of this line and where should i use it for bass fishing. Also i can see it underwater so i am sure the bass can also. I have noticed that is probably better for top water. Quote
njbasser Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 power pro > firewire I don't use braid for much, just when i am casting around very heavy cover. I have also used it C-rigging with a fluoro leader. Mono is best for topwater IMO because the stretch helps you not set the hook to fast Quote
-ebby- Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 try fireline- Very very strong very thin and casts great, i have heard good things about power pro to Quote
Super User Marty Posted August 14, 2008 Super User Posted August 14, 2008 Is there a Firewire or do you mean Fireline? I used smoke Fireline for a few years and liked it except it didn't cast as well as I like on spinning, so I switched to Power Pro, which is also strong and just as abrasion resistant, but casts better for me. Also i can see it underwater so i am sure the bass can also. Certainly they can, as they can also see other types of line. The big question is does it deter strikes? I don't think so, but can't prove anything. Quote
Flywalker Posted August 15, 2008 Author Posted August 15, 2008 yea i meant fireline. I like the way it cast and it is super strong almost to strong sometimes. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 15, 2008 Super User Posted August 15, 2008 Fireline is among the worst lines ever introduced. Avoid this line, it is undependable for any type of fishing. The line has zero resistance to abrassion. > Quote
CFFF 1.5 Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 I have had no problems using this line. I actually really like it. Quote
-ebby- Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 I love fireline, works great around the weeds and i have never had a fish snap my line with it. While using the yozuri you recomend i had two small fish snap my line right next to the boat. One went under the boat and could have cut the line on something, but on the next fish i was reeling it in it was ten feet from the boat when it decided to give a tug on my line and it snapped like nothing, i took the line of every one of my reels after that and put my fireline back on. and you say its not abrassion resistent but i have problems cutting it except with a superline cutter. Your line may work around rocks and in open water, but if the fish have a place to dive and get stuck you aren't getting it back out with yozuri US. Just my opinion and i was using 8# for yozuri on a spinning reel and can cast 20# fireline easy with the same reel and don't need any conditioner Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 15, 2008 Super User Posted August 15, 2008 I love fireline, works great around the weeds and i have never had a fish snap my line with it. While using the yozuri you recomend i had two small fish snap my line right next to the boat. One went under the boat and could have cut the line on something, but on the next fish i was reeling it in it was ten feet from the boat when it decided to give a tug on my line and it snapped like nothing, i took the line of every one of my reels after that and put my fireline back on. and you say its not abrassion resistent but i have problems cutting it except with a superline cutter. Your line may work around rocks and in open water, but if the fish have a place to dive and get stuck you aren't getting it back out with yozuri US. Just my opinion and i was using 8# for yozuri on a spinning reel and can cast 20# fireline easy with the same reel and don't need any conditioner You need to set your drag properly, check your guides and inspect your line. I have never been broken off by a fish using Yo-Zuri Hybrid or Hybrid Ultra Soft. Regarding Fireline: If you fish in a rocky environment the line will fray. Perhaps if all of your fishing is in open water or vegetation the line will hold up, but it is not an "all-around" fishing line and there are much better alternatives. Note: I fished the original fomula which had poor tensile strength and underperformed its pound test ratings. As is typical of Berkley, after introducing a sub-par product (Vanish for example), they often repackage the brand as "New and Improved". The "New" Fireline is touted as 20% stronger... Well, that may be the case, but: "Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me." p.s. Ironsilk has been discontinued. I suspect Fireline will be the next to go. 8-) Quote
Mista B 504 Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 Fireline is among the worst lines ever introduced. Avoid this line, it is undependable for any type of fishing. The line has zero resistance to abrassion. > x 1,000,000 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted August 15, 2008 Super User Posted August 15, 2008 repackage the brand as "New and Improved". The "New" Fireline is touted as 20% stronger... I would hope all companies are constantly trying to "improve" their products. I have been fishing Fireline since its introduction and have been satisfied with it (in all of its various colors and improvements). Like most things in life you need to spend some time with it and become proficient in using it as it is slightly different in character than non-fused braids. I have used other braids (including PowerPro) and have always returned to Fireline on my spinning gear. I would like to try the new "round" Fireline on my baitcasting gear as I've liked the Stren Ultra-cast 8 strand braid pretty well on those reels. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 15, 2008 Super User Posted August 15, 2008 Fireline is not a braid, its a "superline". "In the early 1990s, gel-spun and aramid fibers such as Spectra, Kevlar and Dyneema entered the fishing line market, creating a new category of lines often called "superlines" or "microfilaments." Anglers who experimented with early superlines were frustrated by low knot strength, backlashes, poor coloration, damaged equipment, impossible snags, and more." Quote
-ebby- Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 I very rarely fish rocks so maybe your line works good there but it is not good for what i do. I have never once had a problem using fireline on that same combo that i had US on. I saw the fish as it was coming towards the boat then it decide to stop and try to hold in that spot and it did- because my line snapped. A fish that is less then a pound should not break line that easy. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 15, 2008 Super User Posted August 15, 2008 A fish that is less then a pound should not break line that easy. A small fish could not break any brand of line without other issues coming into play. Quote
Super User Marty Posted August 16, 2008 Super User Posted August 16, 2008 Regarding Fireline: If you fish in a rocky environment the line will fray. I don't fish around rocks, but I've read that all superlines have lousy abrasion resistance against rocks. Fireline never broke on me and was incredibly abrasion-resistant against wood and vegetation. My only problem was it didn't cast as well as I would've liked on spinning gear. As stated earlier, Fireline is in the family of superlines, but it's fused, not braided. Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted August 17, 2008 Super User Posted August 17, 2008 I'm aware of the negatives of Fireline (for me it's just the casting problem) and the stuff may not be the ideal choice for every situation but it does have it's merits. The 4/10 is excellent stuff for finessing inside weedlines on gravel flats. Fish bury in those weeds with light mono and you are screwed to the hilt. For as well as Fireline slices vegetation, it tips the odds in your favor there. I love the stuff and hate it at the same time. I will never choose to use it if I can get away with mono but I'm not going to ignore it where I know it can help. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted August 17, 2008 Super User Posted August 17, 2008 Maybe I"m wrong on this but I believe they have come out with a true braided line just recently. Quote
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