bass slayer 17 Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 I have just started flipping my bail over manually on my spinning reel and I think it makes a huge difference to line twist problems and also better presentations... Is there anyone else who thinks the same thing??? Quote
avid Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 It definitely cuts down on line twist. No doubt about it. Quote
NewScreenNameAdvised Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Absolutely. I just started doing that about 3 years ago and boy what a difference. now I get all anal when I let a friend borrow arod/reel with good line on it and see them using the handle to engage the reel. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted July 31, 2008 Super User Posted July 31, 2008 It does help to keep that first loop from forming, after a while it becomes second nature, you will not even think about it Quote
Super User Sam Posted July 31, 2008 Super User Posted July 31, 2008 ALWAYS FLIP YOUR SPINNING REEL BAIL WITH YOUR HAND. It will extend the life of the reel. Then, pull on the line to tighten it before you start to reel it in. Run line through your fingers to feel for nicks and to try to remove any line twist and to keep line tight. Do this for a few turns of the handle. You will always get line twist with a spinning reel. It is just the amount of line twist and how long it will take to curl your line that matters. Be sure to treat the line with KVD Lure and Line Conditioner when spooling your spinning reels. Quote
LAO162 Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 I started flipping the bail manually last year. I seldom have twist issues now. Maybe 10% of the time I flip the bail by cranking. Quote
TrailerHook Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 I have always closed my bail manually. I believe it prolongs the life of the reel because it is much easier on the reel to close it gently by hand than to allow it to snap closed on its own. Plus, it gives you an opportunity to tug on the line to make sure it is positioned properly on the bail wire before you begin your retrieve. This will cut down on line twist and tangles dramatically. Quote
TrailerHook Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Be sure to treat the line with KVD Lure and Line Conditioner when spooling your spinning reels. x2 on that, Sam. I'm a big believer in KVD's line conditioner after using it so far this year. It makes a big difference in taming line twist and tangles on spinning reels. I spray some on a shop towel and run the line through it as I'm spooling it on my reels. Then, when I'm fishing I will re-apply a couple times a day as needed. Makes a big difference. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted July 31, 2008 Super User Posted July 31, 2008 I have just started flipping my bail over manually on my spinning reel and I think it makes a huge difference to line twist problems and also better presentations... Is there anyone else who thinks the same thing??? YES. Quote
Big Tom Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 I have always closed the bail manually. It just always seemed like it would be better for your reel anyway. It's a nice habit. Quote
sdcoll Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 huh go figure i didnt even think that there was any other way to use it......... Quote
djmax22 Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 I used to close by reeling until I heard Ike mention on TV to always close the reel manually. Quote
Ultraman Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 i have a question for the kvd spray, do u just spray it on the spool itself or do u run the line through a cloth with kvd spray applied to it? and if both work, which method is better? thanks Quote
Texas_Bass_Man Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 i have a question for the kvd spray, do u just spray it on the spool itself or do u run the line through a cloth with kvd spray applied to it?and if both work, which method is better? thanks I have used both, and feel like both work. However, I think applying the KVD conditioner while you spool the reel while running it through a cloth gives a more even application. Quote
bass slayer 17 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Posted August 1, 2008 does his line conditioner really make a difference and is it better than other brands Quote
adclem Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 Nice info, will have to try it out this evening. Thanks, Quote
thefishingone Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 :-? I never heard of this. I'm going to start trying it. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted August 1, 2008 Super User Posted August 1, 2008 WOW AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A FAMILY FRIENDLY SITE To think all this talk about guys flippin thier bails manually Quote
Ultraman Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 ya mean slaying the one eyed trouser snake? Quote
The Rooster Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 I've cranked bails closed for 12 years now, and recently read where Ike said not to so now I'm trying to make myself learn not to. I'm finding out I like it better so far. Haven't noticed yet whether it makes a difference in line twist but I did find out that by having my hand on the bail waiting to snap it closed I can feather a cast letting the line flow against my palm while the lure is still in the air. Works really well for slowing the bait down and entering the water with less splash. After a few fishing trips where I closed it manually I'm starting to form a habit of pulling the line to put it where it belongs on the line roller so I guess I'm doing what I should be doing. Got two new Pflueger spinning reels this spring also so I want to keep them in tip top shape. I had an Abu Garcia Cardinal for a number of years and after a while the bail got so it would not close when cranked shut anymore. I must have worn off the striking point under the rotor for it to close by cranking it down. So given that experience and what I've read about it now, I'll never crank them shut again. Quote
guitarkid Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 I do because with my cardinal I had too, got in the habit and now I do it with my Medalist. It is almost a force of habit. -searoach Quote
eddieinva Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Agreed.. Have had spinning reels for a while now, and i've started with manual flipping.. and stuck with it.. I have a Spheros ..about 5-1/2 yrs old now.. and it's as good as new.. NEVER had a problem with my line.. Actually, I had to manually flip it because the Spheros bad a bad design to the bail itself.. Quote
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