Super User skunked_again Posted August 9, 2008 Super User Posted August 9, 2008 im new to this spinning reel thing and im having a tough time spooling the reel without twists and loops. anyone have pointers on the best spooling techniques? Quote
The Rooster Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 I've tried every method I can think of and never have found a fool proof way to do it. Holding the spool as if spooling a baitcaster works somewhat well but still has loops. I even let the tackle shop here spool my line for me earlier this year, 4 spools in all, using their machine. It was twisted worse that way than EVER before. So that's out now too. They say laying it on the floor face up and spooling off of it that way is supposed to be correct. Run the line through the line guides on the rod and then onto the reel, just as if you were reeling in the line out on the water. BUT, I've found out that in doing this you need to start off that way, wind a few turns onto the spool, then let the line between the rod and the spool on the floor go slack and watch to see if it twists up on you. If not then you're good to continue but if so then turn the spool on the floor over face down and continue. Only thing I have yet to try, and will be doing the next time I need new line, is using the KVD line conditioner. Even spooling the way I just described I still get some line twist. They say the KVD line conditioner will help greatly with this. I have yet to get any but I will be doing so soon, it's the only thing left to try that I know of. I've read to spray some of it onto a cloth to where it's pretty wet and then pinch the line in the cloth so that it runs right through the sprayed area and spool it onto the reel. That way every inch of the line is coated in the spray. It's supposed to soften it up some I think so it retards the memory of the line and helps with the twist in that way. Quote
skillet Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 Have always spooled my spinning reels like Roostertails said "laying it on the floor label up" then giving it some slack to see if it twists. It has always worked for me. KVD line conditioner is some good stuff (really good ) but I don't know if it would help if you filled your spool backward... As Ever, skillet Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted August 9, 2008 Super User Posted August 9, 2008 Do it just as Roostertail suggested. But, use a nylon rag for the KVD. I remember reading that cotton or paper towels would bond with one of the componenets of KVD, preventing a proper application. And, when you've finished filling the spool, spray down the entire spool with more KVD, and let it dry over night. I just started using KVD this year. I don't use a spinning reel often, but my wife will only use spinning gear. We've both had a lot fewer line handling problems this year. And it's due to KVD. That's the only difference between this year and last year. Same rods, same reels, same line, and a lot fewer twists and tangles this year. Good luck, GK Quote
atrocity Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 roostertail's second way always works for me, also always close the bail manualy, that'll help too Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted August 9, 2008 Super User Posted August 9, 2008 I always spool off the top like a bait casting reel. I do not have twisting problems. I do have some twisting with mono when I do a lot of drop shot or tube fishing. When that happens I tie a good ball bearing swivel to the line, hook it to the fence and walk out all the line. I hold the line with a cloth and wind it back on the spool as I walk to the swivel. It takes care of the problem. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted August 9, 2008 Super User Posted August 9, 2008 Laugh if you want....i used to put my spool in a bucket of water(label facing up) and reel it in that way. I've never had line jump off my spinning reels doing this. Quote
Super User Marty Posted August 9, 2008 Super User Posted August 9, 2008 im new to this spinning reel thing and im having a tough time spooling the reel without twists and loops. anyone have pointers on the best spooling techniques? First of all, make sure you're using a spinning-friendly line, i.e., low memory, easy handling, etc. Check the owner's manual. Some reels with anti-twist line rollers recommend holding the supply spool up and down like a baitcaster. This works on these reels, but the traditional way works too. As for the traditional way, every time your reel spool turns, a clockwise twist is put in the line. The idea is to have a counterclockwise twist coming off the supply spool to offset, or partially offset, the clockwise twist. This means the supply spool is on the floor or other flat surface such that the line comes off counterclockwise. Ignore the label position. It has nothing to do with the physics of line spooling and is unreliable. I have in my possession two sizes of Trilene XL with opposite label positions and this has been my experience for years, with other brands as well. Finally, all other things being equal, best line performance comes when you have line on a relatively large reel spool. By this I mean avoiding things like 10 or 12# line line on a reel rated for 4-6-8. Good luck. Quote
hercdoc Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 I spool my spinning reels a couple of time a year. No special way... just wind the line on the reel. THEN...I attach the reel to the rod and run the line through the guides. I tie on a large barrel swivel to the end of the line and attach this to the antenna of my pickup. I walk all the way out into my yard with the line feeding off the reel. When I come to the end of the line, I just start walking towards my truck reeling in the line. The swivel spins out all the line twists as I reel in. Then I spray some KVD line conditioner on the line and again every night before I go fishing. Seems to work for me! Quote
The Rooster Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 Laugh if you want....i used to put my spool in a bucket of water(label facing up) and reel it in that way. I've never had line jump off my spinning reels doing this. Wouldn't it be cool if you could do this using a big bucket of KVD?? Quote
The Rooster Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 You know, when they put line onto spools for packaging and selling, I'd bet they just roll it on there like a baitcaster would. So that should have no twist if they do that. Then we spool spinning reels with it coming off over the side and spinning and twisting it's way onto the spool. I used to think it helped me when I spooled with the roll feeding line off the top like a baitcast reel would but for some reason I quit doing that. I think next time I do this, I might try it again that way and also use KVD with it too. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted August 10, 2008 Author Super User Posted August 10, 2008 anyone put KVD on the spool before the put the line on the reel? Quote
snuffy33 Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 anyone put KVD on the spool before the put the line on the reel? I spray every new spool when I buy it. Quote
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