thefishingone Posted July 19, 2008 Author Posted July 19, 2008 No The Reel Mechanic my parents want to move to Las Vegas. Man talk about fishing at Lake Las Vegas or Lake Mead. There's also a Bass Pro there too. So it'll suite me well. Any suggestions on what rod I should save up for? Remember two piece rod and cork handle! Quote
The Rooster Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 I don't think you'll have too much problem finding a cork handle since most of them have that. Today I noticed that there are some 2 piece rods in Bass Pro Shops though. The Tourney Special is available as a 2 piece, but it's a 6'6" rod. I like it but you may not. They sell for $50 at regular price, but sometimes they go on sale. If you go to a Bass Pro Shops, check those out. I think they're nice rods. Quote
joeyd50 Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 Try this, cast as far as you can, then peel off a couple more yards. Now get some electric tape and tape up the spool, next time you cast you can't go any further then the tape, this will reduce your backlash till you get the hang of it. Good Luck Joe Quote
Super User .RM. Posted July 19, 2008 Super User Posted July 19, 2008 chanrocks93, my parents want to move to Las VegasOUCH from Lewiston, Maine to Las Vegas. Wow what a culture shock, not to mention from moderate temps to hotter than hell....joeyd50, I really hate that system. It's guys like you that have new to BC reel anglers trying to cast as far as they can before they can even hit a bucket at 10'.... Because most all users of BC equipment (when telling the truth) always get some king of backlash, then you wind up leaving the tape on the spool. I had a friend try it, lure hit the water fish took the lure and no more line to let out because of the tape.. Guess what he looked like a d**n fool trying to get the tape off of the spool so he could fight the fish, need less to say he lost a heck of a fish to that system.. I SAY NO TO THAT TIP!! Quote
thefishingone Posted July 19, 2008 Author Posted July 19, 2008 I can get a field and stream casting rod. My question is should I get a 6' or a 6'6 and why? Quote
Evan Pease Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 I can get a field and stream casting rod. My question is should I get a 6' or a 6'6 and why? 6'6" because you can cast farther. To answer your question on how to cast farther get a longer rod and an expensive reel. Quote
joeyd50 Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 chanrocks93,my parents want to move to Las VegasOUCH from Lewiston, Maine to Las Vegas. Wow what a culture shock, not to mention from moderate temps to hotter than hell....joeyd50, I really hate that system. It's guys like you that have new to BC reel anglers trying to cast as far as they can before they can even hit a bucket at 10'.... Because most all users of BC equipment (when telling the truth) always get some king of backlash, then you wind up leaving the tape on the spool. I had a friend try it, lure hit the water fish took the lure and no more line to let out because of the tape.. Guess what he looked like a d**n fool trying to get the tape off of the spool so he could fight the fish, need less to say he lost a heck of a fish to that system.. I SAY NO TO THAT TIP!! The whole point of the tape is to stop the massive backlash, I should have said, you put on the tape then you practice the 10, 15, 20 foot buckets and out till you feel comfortable, then take the tape off. This does work. Good Luck Joe Quote
The Rooster Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Myself I would tend to think that if he was able to make such a long cast successfully in order to put the tape on it, he wouldn't need the tape at all. Otherwise after a cast like that he'd have one heck of a monster backlash to fight before he could even install the tape. Also, I'd say get a 6' rod to start with. I find the shorter rod way more comfortable to cast with. Since your primary goal is to learn to cast it and have some success fishing with it while doing so, then a 6' rod would work better, for me anyway. It's true that a longer rod will provide more momentum when casting and will throw the lure farther, but what good will it do you if you have huge backlashes to fight after the cast?? More momentum means a faster moving spool and the line coming off faster also. If you aren't on the spool good with your thumb then I think you'll have a lot of trouble. Also a longer rod means more chance of doing stupid stuff (that I sometimes still do :) such as hitting the ground as you come around on a side arm cast, or hitting low hanging tree limbs as you cast overhead. You start to make a cast with a 3/8 oz. spinnerbait, let it hit a bush nearby and you'll think you've never really had a backlash before that. It'll be worse looking inside that reel than the bush the rod tip just smacked!! Shorter rods are just easier to use in general I think. They're not as tip heavy with the lure hanging down it seems cause of the shorter length, and therefore it's just easier to cast with them. That's my experience anyway. I try to use a 6' rod for anything I cast if possible, just for comfort reasons. I can cast a baitcaster pretty well on average, but I still opt for 6' anytime I can. By the way, I was at Dick's today and saw the Field & Stream rods. They had 2 different ones. One was an IM6 and it was on sale for $25 I think. It's red in color and has stainless steel guides I believe. Is that the one you're looking at?? The other is an IM7 rod by Field & Stream, called the Angler series, and it has much better guides on it, the Fuji aluminum oxide guides, concept spacing, and a Fuji reel seat (all of which the other one doesn't have). Overall it felt much better to me than the other one did, and it was only $40 on sale also, usually $50. Not a huge jump up in price but I think it's a much better rod overall than the first one is, it compares to the Quest LS-7 I bought there last year, really it feels like the same rod with a different name on it, but blue instead of maroon. I'd buy one in a minute if I needed one. They're nice. Didn't see any 2 piece rods though, and I was looking cause I remembered you wanted one. They sure did have some nice rods there though. I checked out the All Star Select rods for $60 and they're really nice. Also the St. Croix Triumph, was on sale for $70 and it felt fantastic, but it's a bit high for your needs right now. I might be moving into one of those though in the future, that was a really nice spinning rod, felt very sensitive and light. Never knew they were that nice, I never have seen one before. Quote
thefishingone Posted July 20, 2008 Author Posted July 20, 2008 I'm going with the $25 one to start out and work my way up to a different rod when I get more expirenced and well of course get more money. Quote
joeyd50 Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 If you never tried the tape, don't knock it, it does work, chanrocks93, if your still have problems backlashing try the tape. IT WILL HELP YOU. Quote
thefishingone Posted July 20, 2008 Author Posted July 20, 2008 I don't get any backlashes/ very few. I do get a few birdnest from hitting objects on accident and I can't thumb my line. It looks like I'm somewhat ready to start fishing with my baitcaster. This Tuesday I was supposed to go to Rockland, Maine to got fishing but looks like bad weather. I'll update you guys on how I do when I go fishing sometime this week. Quote
The Rooster Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Hmmmm..........maybe you know something I don't but I think a bird's nest and a backlash are the same thing. The only differences are the little backlashes vs. the holy crap backlashes!!! Quote
thefishingone Posted July 20, 2008 Author Posted July 20, 2008 Maybe I am wrong. Should I get a Shimano Sojourn or a Field and Stream casting rod? I'm getting a 6'6 and there almost the same price. Quote
The Rooster Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 I've never seen that Shimano rod before. The Field and Stream rod is nice for the amount of money it costs though. I still think it can be beaten for that same money though. Wal-Mart has the Quantum Torsion rods for $18.96, and they're IM-6 graphite. Available in 6'6" MH and 6' M actions (powers). They're not 2 piece though, only 1 piece. Quote
joeyd50 Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 I don't get any backlashes/ very few. I do get a few birdnest from hitting objects on accident and I can't thumb my line. It looks like I'm somewhat ready to start fishing with my baitcaster. This Tuesday I was supposed to go to Rockland, Maine to got fishing but looks like bad weather. I'll update you guys on how I do when I go fishing sometime this week. chanrocks93, just take your time, I found I still get backlashes( birdnest ) if I try too hard to really get out there, keep your cast nice an easy, do some side arm, and some overhead at 1:00 o'clock not directly overhead but 1:00 or 2:00 o'clock range. Good Luck Joe Quote
thefishingone Posted July 22, 2008 Author Posted July 22, 2008 I went fishing today and baitcasting was pretty easy. I got only one birdnest but nothing too big. Thanks for encouraging me to keep at it for baitcasting. BTW I got a Field and Stream rod today its 6'6 and was only $25. I could cast 60 feet with out even trying. Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted July 23, 2008 Super User Posted July 23, 2008 Good to hear! Now take all the advice and encouragement, and practice. I bet in no time it'll be like you were born with one in your hands. Quote
thefishingone Posted July 23, 2008 Author Posted July 23, 2008 Good to hear! Now take all the advice and encouragement, and practice. I bet in no time it'll be like you were born with one in your hands. haha yeah.. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 23, 2008 Super User Posted July 23, 2008 Geez.... After five pages it's time to buy a Shimano! : Quote
shorefisher Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 My 2 cents as a newbie to baitcasting, these are tips that helped me a lot . First do NOT load the rod and snap cast the bait, it will cause an overrun before the lure even hits the water. Set the cast control knob so that you have to shake the bait to get it to drop when you press the button. Set the brake at no less than 40%. Start with roll casting, you probably won't be able to get the bait far, but you won't get any overruns either. If you have to stop the spool when the lure hits the water, or it will overrun, then tighten the cast control knob slightly. After you get the feel of it where you are able to cast without worrying about overruns, then you can take the brake down a notch and very slightly loosen the cast control knob to get a bit more distance. If you loosen too much you will quickly get another overrun. In my experience the heavier the bait is, the easier it is to cast without overruns. I can cast a Zara Super Spook across the pond without an overrun but if I tried to fling a senko out there a birdsnest will come to bite me. I still have trouble with an overhand cast but I can side arm it fairly far. Just practice a bit more and listen to these guys and you will get it soon, I'm sure of it. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted July 23, 2008 Super User Posted July 23, 2008 Geez....After five pages it's time to buy a Shimano! : Agree X2 Well RW we found out were this one was going... Quote
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