Davis Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Price is good but I don't care for it either. It's been the only line this year that has let me down as well. Too many breaks and they weren't at the knot (couple of them broke while bringing the fish to shore so I could see where it broke).BPS XPS Fluoro in 8 lb Cabelas 10lb mono Big Game 12 lb mono Power Pro 30 lb braid These have been my line of choices this year on different rigs and I have ZERO complaints with these four. Weren't you the guy that said a couple of days ago your line was breaking because you weren't cleaning out your backlashes all the way? Was this with the Yo-Zuri and are you sure thats a line issue? Try the Regular Hybrid when you go out next. It works well for me. No that was with Cabelas. Hasn't happened since. Good line and recommend it. I think it was Muddys line of choice as well. My Yo-Zuri #6 was being put on my spinning rod. Wasn't a loop issue or knot issue. Just breaking. My line was turning into a milky color though instead of that nice green color. Maybe that was a sign of weakning? Was fishing this line in the creek when I had problems. Maybe its a rock issue? I just know that my BPS Fluoro in 8lb has been amazing in the creek for smallies. No breakoffs yet. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 13, 2008 Super User Posted June 13, 2008 My Yo-Zuri #6 was being put on my spinning rod. Wasn't a loop issue or knot issue. Just breaking. My line was turning into a milky color though instead of that nice green color. Maybe that was a sign of weakning? Was fishing this line in the creek when I had problems. Maybe its a rock issue?I just know that my BPS Fluoro in 8lb has been amazing in the creek for smallies. No breakoffs yet. I have no idea what happen there. My #6 line doesn't change color or break. Don't know... 8-) Quote
Davis Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 My Yo-Zuri #6 was being put on my spinning rod. Wasn't a loop issue or knot issue. Just breaking. My line was turning into a milky color though instead of that nice green color. Maybe that was a sign of weakning? Was fishing this line in the creek when I had problems. Maybe its a rock issue?I just know that my BPS Fluoro in 8lb has been amazing in the creek for smallies. No breakoffs yet. I have no idea what happen there. My #6 line doesn't change color or break. Don't know... 8-) Probably is a bad batch then. Keep my fishing tackle and supplies in a cool room inside drawers where sun can't get to it. I'll give another spool a shot and see what happens. Quote
The_Natural Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Line is a personal preference, and unfortunately even if it was just a bad spool...your confidence in the line is gone. Â Same thing happened to me with Trilene Sensation. Â I kept breaking off at the knot. Â Many swear by this line and it was thrown around that I possibly got a bad spool. Â By that point I was done though. Â The line that comes to mind that should behave like Ultra Soft would be Pline CX Premium. Â It's limp and had great clarity. Â Quote
weknowhowtolive Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 All these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times. Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference  thing but thats just me...  : Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 13, 2008 Super User Posted June 13, 2008 All these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... : The two most important components of your equipment package are hooks and line, but not necessarily in that order! : Quote
weknowhowtolive Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 All these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference  thing but thats just me...  : The two most important parts of your equipment are hooks and line, but not necessarily in that order! : Of course line is important, I'm just saying a popular line brand thats been sold for years with tons of people using it shouldnt be breaking mid cast for no reason. If it is its either a bad batch or you did something wrong. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 13, 2008 Super User Posted June 13, 2008 No. I use to fish P-Line Floroclear and that is why I quit using the line. I had the same problem (and others) with Sensation. Both lines have been around for years and as far as I can tell, still popular with many. A bigger issue with many lines is their tensile strength verses rated strength. Stretch is involved, but the formula makeup is an important factor. All lines are not created equal. My biggest pet peeve is people getting "broken off". There is no reason for that either, but it happens all of the time. Line selection is much more than just personal preference, many factors and a variety of attributes come into play. I think the bottomline is really "trade-offs". The perfect line has not been discovered yet! 8-) Quote
=Matt 5.0= Posted June 13, 2008 Author Posted June 13, 2008 All these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... : How often d you go out fishing? Once a month? Once every few months? We go every single weekend and sometimes 2-3 times during the week after work. On a given Saturday / Sunday we could spend 12 hours a day on the water. We work hard and then we play hard so the stuff is gonna get tested...know what I mean. Â Quote
weknowhowtolive Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 All these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference  thing but thats just me...  : How often d you go out fishing? Once a month? Once every few months? We go every single weekend and sometimes 2-3 times during the week after work. On a given Saturday / Sunday we could spend 12 hours a day on the water. We work hard and then we play hard so the stuff is gonna get tested...know what I mean.  Mhm, just because it gets stressed doesnt mean that its supposed to break off 15 feet after casting, which is why I'm saying it must have been bad line.From this months Bassmaster: Mike McLelland - #15 Seaguar fluoro Brian Snowden - #20 BPS fluoro Bobby Lane - #17 and #20 Berkley fluoro, #50 spiderwire KVD - #17 BPS Fluoro Ray Sedgwick - #14 Stren Easy Cast, #15 Trilene Fluoro Scott Rook - #20 Trilene fluoro All these dudes who fish for a living seem to use different stuff, so while one person is going to have a bad experience and say such and such gear is horrible, while someone else says they love it, I really think its a personal preference thing. Quote
Davis Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 It's not just a personal preference thing. Also think the type of water you fish comes into play in a HUGE way. I liked the way Yo-Zuri handles....just didn't like that I was having trouble in the rocks/shale/gravel with it. When I was fishing weeds and open water there were no issues. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 14, 2008 Super User Posted June 14, 2008 It's not just a personal preference thing. Also think the type of water you fish comes into play in a HUGE way.I liked the way Yo-Zuri handles....just didn't like that I was having trouble in the rocks/shale/gravel with it. When I was fishing weeds and open water there were no issues. That's funny... I fish the "Rocks from Hell" and that is one of Yo-Zuri's GREATEST attributes! The abrasion resistance is second to none. 8-) Quote
mattm Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Roadwarrior, I know you are an ex P-Line CXX user. Â Are you saying that Yo-Zuri is more abrasion resistant than CXX? Â If so, that is impressive. Â One of the main reasons I have stuck with CXX despite hearing numerous praises of Yo-Zuri, is how tough CXX is. Â In the end I always decided dealing with memory was worth the toughness. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted June 14, 2008 Super User Posted June 14, 2008 Regarding memory: I have stated that line memory in Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft is comparable to braid when the line is "in use". Some coiling will be present from storing the line on the spool of your reel. After a cast or two, the line loses its memory. I find this to be true,as i actually put an inline spinner on 2 weeks ago found some twisting taking place took the inline spinner back off and replaces with a tube and the twists and coils went away after maybe 10 casts at the most.This line has been impressing me every single time i fish with it.I'm using 6# ultra soft on my spinning rig and absolutely love it. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 14, 2008 Super User Posted June 14, 2008 Roadwarrior,I know you are an ex P-Line CXX user. Are you saying that Yo-Zuri is more abrasion resistant than CXX? If so, that is impressive. One of the main reasons I have stuck with CXX despite hearing numerous praises of Yo-Zuri, is how tough CXX is. In the end I always decided dealing with memory was worth the toughness. I am saying it is every bit as tough, but as was mentioned earlier in this thread, backlash creates kinks or weak spots in the line that should be replaced. So, tough yes, puts up with abuse, no. I'm still looking for the perfect line! 8-) Quote
mattm Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 hmmmmm, I have some thinking to do. Â Anyone else used CXX and Ultra-soft and agree with RW that toughness is equal. Quote
fish-fighting-illini Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Matt 5 no way that stuff breaks w/o being a bad spool. I'm using 6lb and have a heck of a time getting it to break when I get a snag. No break off issues for me. Quote
Super User Tin Posted June 14, 2008 Super User Posted June 14, 2008 The perfect line has not been discovered yet! Yes it has, Trilene 100%. Quote
Super User burleytog Posted June 15, 2008 Super User Posted June 15, 2008 hmmmmm, I have some thinking to do. Â Anyone else used CXX and Ultra-soft and agree with RW that toughness is equal. Nope, CXX > US Quote
ABC123 Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 All these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... : I've had bad spools from a few "name brands". PP is the only one I have sworn off, only becouse I found lines I all around like better, so why try it again??? Quote
Super User Alpster Posted June 15, 2008 Super User Posted June 15, 2008 It amazes me that anyone is breaking this line. I use the same wooden dowel that I use for braid when I get snagged. I wrap the US two or three times on the dowel and pull. More times than not, I straighten out the hook instead of breaking the line. I fish in a lot of heavy wood cover and stay snagged. I have towed my boat all over my lake pulling on this line. If you are breaking this line during normal fishing, it's either a defective spool or you are damaging the line somehow. Next to Power Pro braid, this is the toughest line I have used. Including P-Line. That's my experience. FWIW. Ronnie Quote
Super User Micro Posted June 15, 2008 Super User Posted June 15, 2008 I straighten out the hook instead of breaking the line. Ronnie I did that today with regular Hybrid 12#. Â Snagged a slider head on pier piling cross-member, pulled on the line and pulled up a slider head with a hook bent to 90 degrees. Â I've never broken Hybrid. Â Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted June 15, 2008 Super User Posted June 15, 2008 I use 3 lines. Trilene Big game for my baitcasters. Â Don't hate. As for my spinning outfits (which I use 70% of the time) I prefer Yo-zuri US. Like everyone said, it's mixture of strength toughness and castability is amazing. The third line is Trilene XL. Â I use this line on my spinning outfits when I run out of US. Quote
skillet Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I fished original Stren for a looonnng time and finally changed over to CXX and was tickled pink with the strength and no stretch (compared to what I had been using). The memory thing (for me) was a real problem. Started using US and the strength thing was there and LOT less memory. Don't have any figures to back up breaking point but both lines (12 lb) would either pull loose or straighten the hook without breaking... Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â As Ever, Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â skillet Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted June 15, 2008 Super User Posted June 15, 2008 Yo Zuri US all the way.  I'm not gonna knock others, but I have been using us  for 3 different applications,  and have not had any issues, including break-offs.  As far as memory.  As RW stated, make acouple of casts, and the line is ready to go.  I don't think that you can ask more unless your gonna be using a braid. Quote
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