dougs snakes work???

[mattm]

Bass,

I meant why were you trying to sell the fish as five pounds.  Speedbead said I think anyone can see my point, and you said true.  He was trying to say that your fish is not 5lbs, and I have to agree.  It is a nice fish though.  If you think that fish is 5lbs i'm pretty sure you didn't weigh it.  You are right about holding the fish different distances away will alter the appearance.  However you took the picture of you holding the fish.  My logic says it can only be an arm lengths away from the camera.  Just more proof on RW's point that most unweighed 5 lbrs are really 3-3.5 lbs.  Just take a second and look at the picture avid posted in his stick marsh post in the my outing section.   Like I said though nice fish, and IMO an accomplishment that you caught it on  a lure everyone seems to hate.

[bass109]

mattm, your entitled to believe anything you want. I dont mean any disrespect to speedbread or anyone else. Everyone who hates it doesnt have big fish in their body of water or never used it. A lure is only as good as the person using it.

[TournyFish001]

Reading this and all the replies made me laugh- I feel dumber now

[slomoe]

Reading this and all the replies made me laugh- I feel dumber now

just think of it as "reality" TV  ;D

[bass109]

MEGATRON who sayed you were smart

[TournyFish001]

MEGATRON how sayed you were smart

did you mean who? how? I are smarted wita egimacadgion learned a good deal

[bass109]

sorry about that comment. yes you are a genius

[rondef]

Bass109 get a clue, you will not convince members that this is a good product. I agree that a lure is only as good as the person using it but I do make an exception for these snakes, they are not a good investment. I catch good size LMBs on almost every product I use except these snakes, they just do not work. Read all of the threads on the forum and you will find that almost everyone with the exception of you think these are a complete waste of money.

Do you work for Natural Motion Lures since you are pushing this product so hard?

[bass109]

rondef, you cant speak for everyone but point taken. You need a clue.

[rondef]

I am not speaking for everyone, I am just telling you to read the old threads and you will find a lot of people are disappointed in this product.

[rondef]

I also agree with the others that the LMB you claim is 5lbs looks to be a 2 to 2.5lb lmb at best.

[bass109]

rondef point taken, but here is another pic. By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends.

p.s. there is always one more imbecile than you counted on.

[fourbizz]

"how sayed"

and, here's your sign.

[bass109]

thanks fourbizzle, theres no spell check on this forum

[tyrius.]

What this should all really boil down to is looking at what the LMB's main forage is in your area.  Here in IL it is NOT snakes.  Sure you'll see a snake swimming across the pond every once in a while, but in all of my years of fishing I have never seen a fish try to eat a snake.  I actually don't know of any area of the country where snakes will make up a good portion of a bass's forage.

That being said, I'm sure if I threw that lure for long enough I would catch a fish, particularly if I threw it over floating vegatation (when the bass don't even know what they are hitting).  Sometimes bass will kill anything that comes near them.  But if I'm going to spend $40 on a lure to catch big bass it is going to be 2 of Matt's Ultimate Bluegills or 3 of his Baby Bass.  This is what the big ones feed on around here so those lures will give me the best odds of catching a lunker.

And as for bass109 working for Natural Motion Lures?  Seriously?!?!  If I paid someone and they acted like he has been in "promoting" my product, he'd be out the door.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

jcrzy4smlMth if you dont hold a 10lb bass close to the camera then it looks half the weight like a 5lb bass.

mattm i am not trying to sell the lure, i gave a review for it. Buying the lure depends all on you.

speedbread, what clue :-?

Keep this in mind.....

It is better remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Like I said, enjoy your snakes.

Wayne

[FivePoundBluegill]

Guys I think everyone here is missing the point of why these snake lures work or do not work. I have never used them so I cannot comment on the lure. However we all fish different types of lakes in different locations. In some lakes a lure will load the boat with nice bass and in another lake you will get skunked with the same lure. There are lots of factors contributing to if a lure works or not such as temperature, structure, what bass in that lake feed on, and many other things. In some areas where there are lots of snakes that swim across lakes these lures probably would work but if you live in an area with not many snakes they would not. I personally do not buy lures that look like snakes, ducks, rodents and things like that because I always have believed using baits that looks like a bass's most common food(baitfish, worms) will catch more fish. Thing is that these snake lures and any lure for that matter will not work under all conditions and in any body of water.....

[fourbizz]

Guys I think everyone here is missing the point of why these snake lures work or do not work. I have never used them so I cannot comment on the lure. However we all fish different types of lakes in different locations. In some lakes a lure will load the boat with nice bass and in another lake you will get skunked with the same lure. There are lots of factors contributing to if a lure works or not such as temperature, structure, what bass in that lake feed on, and many other things. In some areas where there are lots of snakes that swim across lakes these lures probably would work but if you live in an area with not many snakes they would not. I personally do not buy lures that look like snakes, ducks, rodents and things like that because I always have believed using baits that looks like a bass's most common food(baitfish, worms) will catch more fish. Thing is that these snake lures and any lure for that matter will not work under all conditions and in any body of water.....

I would tend to agree with this, but I would like to point out that earthworms don't really occur with any kind of frequency in lakes and reservoirs. My theory is that if a fish sees something moving slowly along the bottom, it falls into the food category, LOL.

Plain and simple the vast and utter majority of a largemouth's diet consists of other fish and crawfish. But they will occasioanally eat anything that looks like food, and sometimes even things that don't!

$40 for some snakes and a bunch of filler? NO THANKS!

He may have 800 fish over ten pounds, but if you compared his numbers on jumbo shiners to his numbers on the snake, my guess is that the shiners account for at least 3/4 of those fish.....Jumbo shiners cost about $2 out here...but you don't get a CD with them LOL!

[SENKOSAM]

What makes a fish go after a lure or pass it up? Everyone who has fished for various species with a wide variety of baits knows that a variety of baits have a good potential of getting attacked at any one time, water and location. Versatility allows one to fine tune the best lure action, color and profile and presentation to the conditions, structure, depth, season, time of day and the average fish's aggression level.

If you look at baits that work in spring on prespawn bass in shallow water, you find a huge assortment that fit the bill.

If a bait cannot get even a nod from a bass during this time period on a consistent basis, the lure is junk! For those diehards that insist the lure is worth the money, report back to us after using the bait when the water is warming from 50-70 and the weeds are emegent and tell us how the Snake does as compared to the standard baits that always catch fish in spring in shallow water. I have used the lure in spring and it cannot compare to the success of even the most basic lures I've used for twenty years. Not to bust someones bubble, but I'm only here to warn others that gimmics are rarely worth the money and that includes this lure.

Fish are dumb but super sensitive to their surroundings and anything that enters it's domain. If you thinks in terms of a snake that gets stepped on and bites to a toy mouse that is stalked and then attacked by a cat, you understand that fish aren't much different. Reflex is one thing; getting in position to pounce is another. If a lure and angler's manipulation of it can get the sequence of stalking to pouncing to occur, the lure is worth using. But, if you can't work a lure more ways than one to get a fish to strike, you're better off finding lures that can.

The snake is uni-action, uni-location, uni-usage. This causes me frustration because I like to be able to work a lure in ways that might not have been thought of by others. The snake is one dimensional and poor at how it's supposed to perform at different speeds. I would have been more careful before associating my name with this bait.

My opinion, for what it's worth.

[bass109]

SENKOSAM, very interesting

report back to us after using the bait when the water is warming from 50-70 and the weeds are emegent and tell us how the Snake does as compared to the standard baits that always catch fish in spring in shallow water

this fish was caught around 70-75 degress of water in the fall, the date was 9/30/07.

I'm only here to warn others that gimmics are rarely worth the money and that includes this lure.

I'm not promoting the lure, but i have caught a good size bass in my area.Which did give me confidence in the lure. I have had many smaller fish take the lure.

Overall very insightful SENKOSAN, but i guess i'm one of few people in the world that has the right body of water conditions for this lure to work in.

[FivePoundBluegill]

bass109 i guess your lake has the right conditions that get fish to bite the snake lure....at least at this time of year under the current conditions......

Before you start raveing about a lure being good you have to have fished with the bait a while using it in many different ways to react to different conditions. If a bait can catch bass under different conditions depending on how you use it then it is indeed a good bait.

From reading SENKOSAM's post it seems the snake only has one type of action. I do not know though maybe he just has not found other good actions for the lure but from what he says it is a one dimensional bait that does not give you a lot of options in throwing it under different conditions.

Also did you try other baits besides the snake when you caught that decent bass? There might have been other baits that they would want to eat even more. Maybe the bass in that lake were very aggressive.

What I am saying is you should try fishing the bait under many conditions before you say it is a great lure....

[fourbizz]

I like that anology SENKOSAM  

[Guest Wiimote_Angler]

I would buy the snakes if he didn't sell them at huge prices even if its a good deal. One reason which why I don't want to spend my money on big plastic swimbaits as opposed to hard ones. I don't think the bait is totally a one trick pony. Give it some weight and you can do the same action on the bottom.

[bass109]

FivePoundBluegill,

Before you start raveing about a lure being bad you have to used the lure.

What I am saying is you should try fishing the bait under many conditions before you say it is a great lure....

I have found many ways that this lure can be fishing, i believe it works for many conditions but there are other lures with the same action. I am still testing the lure

Remember that most lures dont have multiple actions for multiple conditions. This is a time and place lure, and most lures have times and places.  Either you like it or hate it, much like everything else. :

[Jeff H]

You could "test" the lure your whole life....