Cajun Red fishing line...confusing????

[Bassnajr]

Hey all....

Cajun Red fishing line advertises that red is the first color to "disappear" under water. Thus, fish can not see the line. If that is the case, what does this mean about the "bleeding" everything fad. Red hooks, bleeding tubes, red dots or "kill spots" on hard lures all of which are supposed to attract fish. Which school of thought is correct or is it all a bunch of hooey!!??   :

Please weigh in with your opinion folks!!!!!

ajr

[btcprince]

thats a d**n fine question. i wish i knew the answer

[paul.]

i'm not sure about the science behind all this.  not sure which claim is true.  but i can tell you 3 things.  i don't like red hooks (b/c the red comes off fairly quickly and you are left with a shiny gold or silver hook.)  i do like red rattle baits a lot.  and i do like cajun red line.  it is one of my favorite monofilament lines.    

[kms399]

When I worked at Gander Mountain my boss, who hated cajun line asked the rep the same thing and boy did that shut him up.  ;D ;D

[Grey Wolf]

This has been hashed over many times. Go to the search funtion and you will find all kinds of answers.

[SimonSays]

quick answer...

red line = translucent, light passes through, if it's red it reflects all light in the red spectrum and all else will pass through.  At the depths where red is filtered out there is no more red light coming through the water to reflect off the line so everything else is passed through leaving the line "invisible"

red hooks = solid bodies, all light is absorbed besides red which is reflected.  Light will not pass through hooks and such, so at the depths where red is filtered out all other wavelengths of light will be absorbed.  So technically at those depths when nothing is reflected back you get black.

[Bassboy15]

What I wanna know is...Clear line is CLEAR! Red line disapears quicker than other colors, yes, but clear is CLEAR.....

[daviscw]

I think it takes like 12 feet for red to disappear.

[daviscw]

What I wanna know is...Clear line is CLEAR! Red line disapears quicker than other colors, yes, but clear is CLEAR.....

I agree. That's about what I got from the website. Red disappears faster than any other color, but it doesn't show clear! Hmm...

http://www.cajunline.com/technology.html

[weknowhowtolive]

Has anyone ever actually caught more fish by using red line vs green or clear or camo or whatever else?

[KvD]

ive used the Cajun line you buy at wal mart and i havent had one problem out of it... has SUPER low memory and also doenst break the bank...  great line if you ask me.... landed alot of fish for me this year... and red "disappears" at 3 feet of water to fish like it says on the box... but doesnt go "invisible" to humans until 9 feet... so this brings up my question....

Do fish and humans see things differently?

Alex

[roadwarrior]

Has anyone ever actually caught more fish by using red line vs green or clear or camo or whatever else?

No, but I do believe I get more bites on lighter line. The particular presentation is an overriding consideration. For "moving" lures, line size or visibility does not seem to matter. For deep, weighted presentations (jigs) I have noticed no advantgage to light line. However, fishing weightless soft plastics (Fat Ika, Senko, etc.) I think lighter line has an advantage. Part of this may be visibility, but the action of the bait may also come into play.

Oddly, river fishing is somewhat different. This may be a result of vibrations picked up by the fish's lateral line, but I assure you, line diameter is important. We have found a significant difference when fishing live shiners using Yo-Zuri Hybrid #6 vs. #8 lines even though our water is stained and both lines are virtually invisible.

8-)

[wickyman]

Personally, the line color doesn't matter.  The fish is more than likely not going to see it, as it zips by them, as to what is on the end of it.  If you think about it, a fish's eye is less reformed than our, and cannot filter things at more than 5 feet in front of them, in murky water, and maybe double that if the water is completely clear.  This is an unlikely case though.  Has anyone seen water so clear, that it could be used as a magnifying glass?  I haven't.  But just use lighter line, and a good presentation, as warrior said, and you should see more strikes.  I really only like red lines, or lines that have a heat reactive property that allows you to better see it in light conditions.  

Vanish by Berkley, is some of the best line for seeing, especially in light line necessary conditions.  I use 4lb when crappie fishing, and it is just awesome and clear in the water, but very visible to the eye!  

[MickD]

An experiment reported in In Fisherman about a year or two ago stated that red appeared black at depth, like the 12 feet that someone else noted.  It did not say that red disappeared.

If this is true, then red line will look red shallow and black at depth.  Same for red hooks.

I still believe that clear flouro is as good as it gets in clear water because its index of refraction is very close to that of water. Experiments on bass in tanks shows that they run into clear flouro line that is set up vertically in their tanks and they don't run into mono nearly as often.  Indicating they cannot see the flouro.  I don't know if red line was tested, but logic would indicate, based on the In Fisherman report, that it would be visible shallow.

In water that is not clear the visibility of the line would be less an issue.

If you go fishing with a Great Lakes bass guide and have braid on your outfit they will usually comment that you are hurting your chances as the bass will see the braid.  Just another bit of opinion, but one from people who make their living by having fish not see their line.

[NBR]

It seems to me that I have both read and seen underwater pictures that the line doesn't disappear but takes on a dark gray look. Re red hooks I fish with a guy who uses them most of the time. I catch more fish than he does but then I've always caught more fish than he does. The red does come off the hooks pretty fast.

Personally I don't think the red does a thing except for confidence and if it improves your confidence it would help.

[Fishing4]

I was thinking about getting some cajun for my spinning reel should I?

it would be 14 pound test 

[Bluebasser86]

3 hours ago, Fishing4 said:

I was thinking about getting some cajun for my spinning reel should I?

it would be 14 pound test 

I would not go above 8lb in the Cajun line for a spinning reel. It tends to have pretty bad memory issues and 14lb is heavy in any kind of mono on a spinning reel. 

[Fishing4]

Thanks they don’t have any that light at my local tackle it there a type of cheaper line you would recommend 

[Eric 26]

4 hours ago, Fishing4 said:

Thanks they don’t have any that light at my local tackle it there a type of cheaper line you would recommend 

Trireme XL is a good choice in my opinion, I also like McCoy mean green monofilament.

[J Francho]

This thread is a teenager.

[ironbjorn]

1 hour ago, J Francho said:

This thread is a teenager.

This thread was created ONE DAY before my son was born. He just got home from 8th grade school.

[Tatsu Dave]

On 6/11/2008 at 8:58 AM, roadwarrior said:

No, but I do believe I get more bites on lighter line. The particular presentation is an overriding consideration. For "moving" lures, line size or visibility does not seem to matter. For deep, weighted presentations (jigs) I have noticed no advantgage to light line. However, fishing weightless soft plastics (Fat Ika, Senko, etc.) I think lighter line has an advantage. Part of this may be visibility, but the action of the bait may also come into play.

Oddly, river fishing is somewhat different. This may be a result of vibrations picked up by the fish's lateral line, but I assure you, line diameter is important. We have found a significant difference when fishing live shiners using Yo-Zuri Hybrid #6 vs. #8 lines even though our water is stained and both lines are virtually invisible.

8-)

I was influenced by Billy Westmorland and his pre finesse but never the less finesse fishing style in deep water with light line cause them ol' brown fish can be smart and hard to fool. This thread is just coming of age........  

[FishTank]

19 hours ago, Fishing4 said:

I was thinking about getting some cajun for my spinning reel should I?

it would be 14 pound test 

Short answer no.  8lb maybe but 14lb would be a nightmare on a bass spinning reel.   Does this line even exist in it's original formula?  Did Quantum/Zebco buy it?  

[joshmartin462]

i made a mistake of spooling up 20lb test on a spinning reel.....trying for redfish and jacks......3 casts and i had spun a model of an Atom. Its memory rivals an  elephants...terrible idea for me.

[MN Fisher]

13 minutes ago, joshmartin462 said:

i made a mistake of spooling up 20lb test on a spinning reel.....trying for redfish and jacks......3 casts and i had spun a model of an Atom. Its memory rivals an  elephants...terrible idea for me.

20# on a spinning reel?

 

I use it in 6#

 

As backing on my spinning reels - never would use it for main-line....but it's probably the cheapest (in all senses of the word) available for backing.