fishing4fun Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 I have been tying 20lb InvisX Seaguar line to 50lb braid using both Uni to Uni and Albright. Everytime I set the hook on a M/H or Heavy action baitcasting rod the knot breaks. I use 15lb InvisX on my spinning rods without any issues. Any suggestions would be appreciated..... Thanks Quote
SoCalRob Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 I have no idea how to tie either knot...but my word of advice is if you KNOW you are tying them correctly...try lubing the knot when tightening and using a drop of super glue. It could be your drag on the line is too tight, but I have never used either or those knots or braid for that matter. But this is my advice based upon other threads on this board. Rob Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted May 12, 2008 Super User Posted May 12, 2008 First guess is that you haven't adjusted your drag or hook set technique for using braided line with your equipment. Second quess is it's your knot tying technique is suspect. Both of the knots you use will work if you do your part correct. Is your knot actually breaking or is the line next to the knot breaking and the knot is intact? If it's the line, which one is it? Quote
fishing4fun Posted May 12, 2008 Author Posted May 12, 2008 Thanks for the feedback... The flouro leader knot is breaking - I always have my drag cranked down. I may have to just go with straight braid. When I am fishing heavy cover or docks I crank my drag down. I have been using high vis yellow marking the last 6' with a black marker. I will never fish without high vis again - it is a line watchers dream..... Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted May 12, 2008 Super User Posted May 12, 2008 I also use yellow/gold braid but if I don't use a leader, I dip a couple of feet of line into a bottle of softbait lure dye in the red color. I use the uni-uni connection and have never had line breakage unless it was on purpose when getting hung up. Most of the time the fluorocarbon line will break at the hook IF if breaks. Lots of times the hook will bend or break. Most of my leader set ups have 30# Stren Super Braid and 20# XPS Fluorocarbon. If you are controlling your hook set technique for braided line, then it must be your line tieing skills with fluorocarbon that need work. Especially with the relatively rough surface of the braid, if you don't wet the knot a lot and tighten very slowly, the fluorocarbon will be damaged from friction during the tightening process. If you are tieing prefect knots and using the proper hook set technique, then your brand of fluorocarbon is suspect or is a flawed batch. It sounds like it is your hookset technique since you don't have a problem with spinning gear but do with heavier baitcasting tackle. You must use a lot more hookset force with your baitcasting gear than with spinning gear due to the use of a heavier action rod and ability to use both hands to apply that force. That is not necessary as all you need is a quick wrist snap to get the hook set and not the whole body/major arm movement hookset as used with mono. Remember there is no stretch or overcome when using braid. Quote
misfit1III8 Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 im kinda puzzled on this... i have never had this happen on a uni to uni... Quote
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