curado bashing

[bassripper2000]

So

I been reading alot about people saying that the new curados aren't good, not worth it, worst thing Shimano has ever done, and this and that.

But I am wondering, what is so wrong with new Curados.  I have a 100 DSV and it performs great.  

Let's dismiss the price tag as that is the main gripe.  But in terms of performance, what is wrong with the reel?  

Just wondering?  My curado is smooth and casts great.  IMO, the finish looks good and the reel is solid?  The only thing is the drag could use some improvement.  It is smooth, but not as strong as I would like, but anyhow in the 100DSV how much drag is really necessary.  Obviously, there are other issues that made Shimano revamp a fairly new line of reels.  

Thoughts?  Just Curious is all?

[Hooked_On_Bass]

Good question? :-? I love mine!

[Raul]

The only complain I have, and I don 't own a Curado 200 size, what kept me from purchasing one was the increase in weight of more than an ounce over the previous generation; the old shoulder ain 't what it used to be when I was 10 years younger :-[, I 've always made my casts with one arm so that 1+ ounce really takes it 's toll on the old shoulder.

However Shimano managed to reduce the weight in the 100 size by almost an ounce, go figure !  :-? (  Curado 100B size = 8,5 oz vs 7.4 in the Curado 100D ).

I did get a Citica 200 for my swimbait setup, but reel weight isn 't a problem there because I cast with both arms.

[Siebert Outdoors]

So where are you reading this?  I havent seen a topic yet on curado bashing.  

[djmax22]

I have bashed the Curado for it weight in the 200 models. I do think that the majority of the complaints were the price  and the weight issue. However, the new curados have all metal parts compared to previous verison which was a metal-plastic composite. It is unrealisitc that they would be lighter. Is it worth the price increase? I have started to come around. Definately a great deal if you got a rebate.

[David P]

I have a Curado 100 and Revo STX

I do like the STX better performance wise, but like the size of the curado better.

The only reason I don't own more curados is the price.

[SimonSays]

I love my curado, I got it during the rebate so the price was perfect.  It casts like a dream compared to my citica.  

My only gripes I have is the smoothness of the handle...I don't know but it just doesn't seem as smooth as my citica, seems there's friction of some sort.  I had it looked at by a local reel mech but he wasn't able to fix it even after he lubed the entire thing up.  He did however fix my drag, it's very solid now compared to what it was before.

[booneangler]

They are discontinuing the new Curado's not enough people buying them they are bringing back the old ones in the green case.

[FishTank]

I had one of the new Curado 201 for about a week and returned it.  It was ok but I liked my older BSF Curado better.  Like everyone else I did not like the size or the weight.  I have to be picky but it was just uncomfortable to fish for the purpose I had intended it for.  I have fished but do not own the 100 size and I liked it a lot better, go figure.

[rfrazier]

The Curado 201DPV was my first low profile baitcaster, it was great until I got my hands on a fuego, 50mg etc. I think more people are finding they enjoy lighter, and potentially smaller baitcasters, which are abundant in the Curado price range. I own a Curado 101d and like it a lot better than my 201 which I am planning to sell.... I have Diawa fever.

[islandbass]

Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, and giving an negative opinion is not necessarily bashing.  Sometimes you have to call things how you see them.

Take this from someone who has 2 Curado Ds, a 101D and 201D. What I am stating is my own opinion and my dislikes and no one has to agree with me.

I for one do not think that the 101D is worth the $199 MSRP and the 201D, maybe $175-80 is a price I's be willing to pay.

In the case of the 101D, it is lighter than the 101BSF, but I don't think it is worth the $50 increase in price for its lower weight, lighter spool and the dartanium drag and lack of the 1/4 turn sideplate. Why? The citica 100 size also has many of the same features but is only $119.

In the case of the 201D, you are getting more: The HE Gearing, Dartanium Drag, 1/4 turn sideplate to name a few, so I like I mentioned, maybe $175-80. But at the same time, the Citica 201D also has many of those features. The differences appear to be in the bearing count and spool, but can such changes be worth the $70 increase between the two reels? Ultimately, the buyer decides.

The Citica D is so close to the Curado in the 100 size that the $70 difference almost doesn't seem worth it.  I think the reason they didn't make the Citica 101D (which irks me  : and I would have bought one) is because the Curado 101D sales would suffer for the reason I pointed out.

In both of my cases, I did not (and would not have) pay full retail. I got the 201D for $179 and the 101D for $133 after the rebate, both prices I was willing to pay.

Just because I mention this does not mean I am bashing the curado d. Heck no. I have two awesome reels and there is no doubt about it. I am merely pointing out that perhaps a better pricing structure could have been made for the every day Joe could have benefited them better.  I realize they put in the $$ and the research, but at the same time, but there is also a corrleation as to what folks are willing to pay for things they want.

Now I know that people bash the 201D for its bulk and weight but on the other side of the coin, perhaps it doesn't dawn on us bass anglers that the 201D was targetted to anglers seeking larger quarry that can spool a 101. I bought my 201 because there are salmon and steelhead that I face that would smoke a 101 in no time flat. As "heavy" as the 200s are, it is a solid reel.

[bassripper2000]

Ok

So there is absolutely nothing wrong with the reel.  Performance wise.  So the main gripe still is the price point in comparison to the lineup.

Interesting it will be to see the new line and see what corners they cut if any, to make the new curados make the price point the market demands.

I only see it as they add more features and keep the price point or take away some so lower the price.  

What would make a Curado worth $200.

[Micro]

I owned a Curado 100BSF (I think that was the desgination).  I bought it at the recommendations I continually heard.  I liked it at first because I didn't know any better.  But after awhile and after trying other reels, I ended up hating it.  It was rough, had a lot of play (back play, side-to-side).  And getting the brakeside cover off was a pain.  

I bought two Curado 200DHSVs a few months ago.  Everything I hated about the old green reel was corrected.  It was tight (still had some back play), and the brakeside plate was easy to open and didn't separate from the reel.  But the more I monkeyed around with them and compared them to my Revos, the more I hated the size.  So I ended up selling them.

The Curado D is a fine reel.  Very nicely made, super caster.  My only issue with it at this point is that I don't see a thing about it that makes it a $200 reel.   IMO, it's not made any better than some lower priced reels, and it doesn't perform better than some lower priced reels.  

IMO, the price reflects the fact it's Japanese made, and labor costs there are reflected in the high price.   Bring the price in line with the Revo S, to which it is very comparable in performance and quality, and, IMO, it would be in the proper niche.  

[jasone]

The Curado D is a fine reel. Very nicely made, super caster. My only issue with it at this point is that I don't see a thing about it that makes it a $200 reel. IMO, it's not made any better than some lower priced reels, and it doesn't perform better than some lower priced reels.

IMO, the price reflects the fact it's Japanese made, and labor costs there are reflected in the high price. Bring the price in line with the Revo S, to which it is very comparable in performance and quality, and, IMO, it would be in the proper niche.

Very well said.  I'll go one further.  You pay for the name brand and the history of the previous models.

J

[lknbassman]

Took my 100D back to BPS after 2 weeks.  Had about 1/8" of play in both directions with the handle if you held the spool motionless and applied very little pressure.  That's sloppy and not at all OK for a reel that's $200.  My 2 cents.  

I now only use Revo STX reels for casting equipment and love them.  Also I like having the magnets on the side of the reel quickly available for changing conditions, lure weights, techniques, etc.  Hated having to crack the case to adjust the magnets for windy conditions.

[Georgia Jeff]

I have the 100D and after the rebate I think it is a good deal at $150.  It is the same size and has the same feel as the 50 MG, just a little heavier.  I consider it a great mid-weight reel for $150.

[Ballistik]

They are discontinuing the new Curado's not enough people buying them they are bringing back the old ones in the green case.

I actually spoke to a shimano rep today at the local bait shops spring sale. And he said yes its coming back to the green color and the 100 will have the HEG and resemble the Core. The price will aslo be 144.99 and the citica will get the same improvement and cost 99.99. I guess we will have to wait and see. I did forge to ask when they where coming out, he was getting bombarded by people.

[shimanogloomis man]

They are discontinuing the new Curado's not enough people buying them they are bringing back the old ones in the green case.

I actually spoke to a shimano rep today at the local bait shops spring sale. And he said yes its coming back to the green color and the 100 will have the HEG and resemble the Core. The price will aslo be 144.99 and the citica will get the same improvement and cost 99.99. I guess we will have to wait and see. I did forge to ask when they where coming out, he was getting bombarded by people.

Oh boy for 145 bucks cant wait ;D

[Micro]

I actually spoke to a shimano rep today at the local bait shops spring sale. And he said yes its coming back to the green color and the 100 will have the HEG and resemble the Core. The price will aslo be 144.99 and the citica will get the same improvement and cost 99.99. I guess we will have to wait and see. I did forge to ask when they where coming out, he was getting bombarded by people.

Now Shimano is talking my language.

[Redsyn]

They are discontinuing the new Curado's not enough people buying them they are bringing back the old ones in the green case.

I actually spoke to a shimano rep today at the local bait shops spring sale. And he said yes its coming back to the green color and the 100 will have the HEG and resemble the Core. The price will aslo be 144.99 and the citica will get the same improvement and cost 99.99. I guess we will have to wait and see. I did forge to ask when they where coming out, he was getting bombarded by people.

Oh boy for 145 bucks cant wait ;D

I almost bought one of the current models when they had the rebate. Hopefully its worth the wait on the new curados.  

[Gone_Phishin]

Let's hope there's a lefty.  :  Us southpaws are always discriminated against.  

[fishfordollars]

I own four. I just finishined spending 50.00 on the oldest one I have replacing the gears, spool, and pawl. Would not have done it if I did not like them. I own three Revos also and I like them.

[hookset]

Not a bad reel, but I like my green curados a whole lot better than the newer ones

[BigBrotherThunda]

I love em, think about what anglers used t ofish with in terms of weight. In that regard  the curados are ultralights! Ive got big caveman hands so they are PERFECT for me!

[dave]

I picked up all 5 of mine from on line guys form this forum.  I just picked up a used (like new) 100D for $94 on ebay.  I like mine a lot.