bronzeback01 Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 the loomis waranty has a feature that if you break your rod you send it to them and they will fix it. Their expiditor service is you send them $50.00 and they will send you a new rod , when you new rod comes you put ypur broken rod in the tube and send it back ,so for fifty bucks you have a new rod. NOW MY QUESTION IS if the rod you sent back just has a broken guide or somthing else small what do they do w/your old rod once it's fixed ? Quote
Super User .RM. Posted April 11, 2008 Super User Posted April 11, 2008 Nothing it isn't fixed it is cut up...... Quote
Super User Alpster Posted April 11, 2008 Super User Posted April 11, 2008 Under the 'expiditor service' Loomis will send you a new rod and keep your old rod, no matter how minor the break. I don't know what they do with them once returned, but you can't get them back under the program. Ronnie Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted April 11, 2008 Super User Posted April 11, 2008 Get shimano then u dont need to know where the rods goes best warrenty by far Quote
Guest muddy Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 , How many Loomis rods do have? There is none on that list you posted, so how would you Know? Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted April 12, 2008 Super User Posted April 12, 2008 What difference does it matter where they go? Quote
The_Natural Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Reelmech is probably right...like a burger that is assembled wrong at a fast food restaurant; the product goes in the trash. The expediter is made to expedite your exchange for a new rod. You aren't paying $50 for a new rod, yet $50 for a new rod to be shipped to you along with the postage required to send in you damaged model. If you break a Loomis on the hookset, you can send it in without utilizing the expediter service and save yourself the $50, and they will replace it Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted April 12, 2008 Super User Posted April 12, 2008 , How many Loomis rods do have? There is none on that list you posted, so how would you Know? Dude,,, calm down i was talking about the warrenty put down the fiction book and look at what i posted ;D Quote
bronzeback01 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Posted April 12, 2008 What difference does it matter where they go? it doesn't matter where they go i was just wondering if you could pick up a repaired one for 1/2 price ,IF THAT'S OK WITH YOU? Quote
Guest muddy Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Have you called their customer service to ask them?They would be the ones to give you t he right answer. Quote
bronzeback01 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Posted April 12, 2008 as a matter of fact i called yesterday and got a voicemail , but i will defenitly follow up on the call just in case they repair and sell them at a discount. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted April 12, 2008 Super User Posted April 12, 2008 What difference does it matter where they go? no it doesn't matter where they go i was just wondering if you gould puck a repaired one for 1/2 price ,IF THAT'S OK WITH YOU? You sound like someome peed in your grits. Laugh a little. Quote
Guest muddy Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 as a matter of fact i called yesterday and got a voicemail , but i will defenitly follow up on the call just in case they repair and sell them at a discount.[/quote ]I would also ask any local shops that repair rods, I got a nice HMG once with a repaired guide, the thread was barely different but it worked great 70 bucks! Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted April 12, 2008 Super User Posted April 12, 2008 If you sent one back with a broke guide that is not deemed a manufacturers defect, then you paid WAY too much to have it replaced. Fix the guide yourself or have someone do it for you. Regardless the reason, it does make you think how much their rods really cost to make. Say you pay $300 for one of their rods. You break it and send it back with the expediter service and you get a brand new on for $50 bucks plus shipping. Now how can they afford to replace that $300 rod for only $50? Even the blanks are priced to the point that it doesn't pay for you to buy and build your own using the same guides and parts they use. I really don't think you would save enough money to make it worth your time. Quote
bronzeback01 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Posted April 12, 2008 the way i look at it is if you have a loomis rod that you payed 150.00 for 5-6-7 years ago and it has wear and tear and you break somthing simple like a guide you send it back w/ 50.00 and you have a brand new one sent to you , and most likely the price for a new one isn't even close to that original 150.00. but even if it went up to 300.00 it only cost you 50.00 PS sorry i'm a little cranky today it's pouring here in ma. i've been fishing 4 days in a row and caught NOTHING! Quote
Guest muddy Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Hey I have been working for 4 days and caught nothing I am feelin ya :-/ I think the big ticket rod companys will replace rods the way they do as an investment in repeat customers. Quote
Super User flechero Posted April 13, 2008 Super User Posted April 13, 2008 If you sent one back with a broke guide that is not deemed a manufacturers defect, then you paid WAY too much to have it replaced. Not always... Lets take my old MBR785 IMX- at the time it was 12 years old and worn to death. The cork was actually smaller than when new, the rod was barely distinguishable as a loomis, and was so rough, I actually considered giving it away or just retiring it. Also, most of the guide frames were bent up and several tips had been replaced. Then an insert popped out of a guide and I thought, "for $50 I can get a new one." Sold the replacement a week later for $225. Even if I had kept it, it was well worth the $50. Say you pay $300 for one of their rods. You break it and send it back with the expediter service and you get a brand new on for $50 bucks plus shipping. Now how can they afford to replace that $300 rod for only $50? It's not $50 plus shipping, it's $50 for the shipping. The warranty is just that. They don't warranty very many rods (as a percentage of sales) Of the 10 or so Loomis rods I owned, only once did I use the Xpeditor. Even the blanks are priced to the point that it doesn't pay for you to buy and build your own using the same guides and parts they use. I really don't think you would save enough money to make it worth your time. Really? I disagree... I've built several rod on Loomis IMX blanks, upgraded everything- titanium SiC's, exotic burl, spiral wrapped, etc., and have kick butt customs for less than the MSRP of the IMX rods. Even if it did cost more, it's still worth my time to have sweet customs. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted April 13, 2008 Super User Posted April 13, 2008 Flechero I did not go into great detail with my explanation but I too have an old Loomis ,20 yrs old, that is functionaly sound. I could easily break one of the guides and get a new rod for $50 and be way ahead of the game. What I meant to say is if your rod is new and a guide breaks then I can't see paying $50 to get it replaced when the rod is otherwise in perfect condition. MBR844 GLX 7' blank list for $242.00 The complete rod retails for $365.00 a difference of approximately $120. Now I haven't priced guides, reel seats and cork in a LONG time but I venture to say they will run you at least 40-60 bucks. So by the time you pay for thread and coating material and then add your time building it you might save 20-50 bucks. That's not worth it to me. But then again, maybe you can find the blanks and parts somewhere cheaper other than directly from Loomis. I have 10 Loomis and they are one of few ,if not the only one, rods that I will actually use that is not custom made instead of mass production. I would love to get back into building rods but it has been so long that I don 't know where to get the deals anymore. Quote
bronzeback01 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Posted April 13, 2008 My reason for asking anyway is to see if you can get one cheaper than a new one, I've never had to send one back. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted April 13, 2008 Super User Posted April 13, 2008 My reason for asking anyway is to see if you can get one cheaper than a new one, I've never had to send one back. Yea I here ya. Wouldn't it be nice to take a stroll through there "defected rod section" of the warehouse looking for deals. I wouldn't even want to begin to wake that MONKEY up. Quote
Super User Gone_Phishin Posted April 13, 2008 Super User Posted April 13, 2008 My reason for asking anyway is to see if you can get one cheaper than a new one, I've never had to send one back. Yea I here ya. Wouldn't it be nice to take a stroll through there "defected rod section" of the warehouse looking for deals. I wouldn't even want to begin to wake that MONKEY up. I know it's not Loomis, but I'm pretty sure St. Croix sells 'seconds' at their factory. From what I've heard many of these rods have very minor flaws, nothing to affect their fishability. Quote
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