SV1000 Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 ...I lost two buzzbaits last night when a loop stopped the spool and snapped the line. This makes four times with Sufix and zero with PowerPro. These may have occurred after picking out a backlash but it would have been several casts prior and I normally strip of enough line to see that it's clear. I moved all the Hi-Vis yellow to one reel and have PP 20# on my Cruxis and PP 30# on my new Citica. I am not comparing the 30# PowerPro to the 20# because I just bought this line. I don't think multiple fish and bait loss and snapping off from shock load is a fluke. It might be alleviated by just going to 30# Sufix but I have no confidence in this line and that is a shame. It has several qualities I prefer over PowerPro :-[ Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted March 25, 2008 Super User Posted March 25, 2008 you should never have to pick out a braid backlash.push your thumb down on the spool and reel in against your thumb pressure.release the spool and pull line out.repeat as needed.i have not had to pick out a backlash in a long time.picks damage line.this method works for all lines. Quote
d.hark Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 you should never have to pick out a braid backlash.push your thumb down on the spool and reel in against your thumb pressure.release the spool and pull line out.repeat as needed.i have not had to pick out a backlash in a long time.picks damage line.this method works for all lines. I do not understand this method? Are you saying just reel in line OVER the backlash? How is that supposed to do anything? Quote
SV1000 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Posted March 25, 2008 Most do pull out, but a few require a ***** or two and I am careful but not perfect and try not to pierce the line. I am pretty good but I still backlash. Quote
AnthonyRSS Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I have lost more lures on PP than Sufix. I think Sufix is better handling than PP. I just lost an XRK75 and thats an expensive price to pay to use braid. Dang stress-strain curve. I think I will quit. Anthony Quote
djmax22 Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 you should never have to pick out a braid backlash.push your thumb down on the spool and reel in against your thumb pressure.release the spool and pull line out.repeat as needed.i have not had to pick out a backlash in a long time.picks damage line.this method works for all lines. I do not understand this method? Are you saying just reel in line OVER the backlash? How is that supposed to do anything? I reel over a backlash too. I tighten the drag and then reel in over it. This casuses the reel to tighten the spool. I then peel off the line (free spool) and then reel the line back in. This method works great. I saw it on Bill Dance a few years ago and it has helped me deal with some nasty backlashes. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted March 25, 2008 Super User Posted March 25, 2008 it reverses the tangles. Quote
d.hark Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I will have to try it. Just doesnt seem like it would do anything except cover it up? I dont know how it can make it any better, but you guys say it works? Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Well I've continued to use the Sufix I spooled up over a week ago, and although it's a little limper now that when I first used it, and there's no more yellow powder dye coming off of it, I still prefer Power Pro. Both are good lines, but like most other things, it comes down to personal preference. I don't know what you're diong that makes the line snap, but you're probably crimping the line when you pull out birds nests. IMO, Power Pro is a little softer than Sufix, and quieter (which is weird because one of the things people say about Sufix is that it's quieter than PP :-? ). Anyway, I won't be buying any more Sufix, but I'll keep using it until it needs to be replaced. Quote
SV1000 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Posted March 25, 2008 I certainly don't pull hard because I don't want to make the line dig. I think it is most likely from not pulling enough line off the spool leaving a loop covered. I think I understand the backlash procedure above, next time I backlash (probably tonight :-?) I will try it. Quote
farmpond1 Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 you should never have to pick out a braid backlash.push your thumb down on the spool and reel in against your thumb pressure.release the spool and pull line out.repeat as needed.i have not had to pick out a backlash in a long time.picks damage line.this method works for all lines. Huh!!! I'll have to try this. If it works, that's awesome! Quote
Super User senile1 Posted March 25, 2008 Super User Posted March 25, 2008 It works. And I don't know what's up with some of the problems you guys are having with Sufix Performance Braid. Heck, dodgeguy bragged on it constantly so I eventually tried some and loved it. I was strictly a PowerPro braid user before that. I haven't bought any recently because I bought enough to last me awhile. Maybe they manufactured a bad batch in the last few months. Quote
farmpond1 Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Here's a thought: Are you filling the line on the spool too loose. Most Braids will dig into themselves if you wind them on anything short of really tight. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted March 25, 2008 Super User Posted March 25, 2008 It works. And I don't know what's up with some of the problems you guys are having with Sufix Performance Braid. Heck, dodgeguy bragged on it constantly so I eventually tried some and loved it. I was strictly a PowerPro braid user before that. I haven't bought any recently because I bought enough to last me awhile. Maybe they manufactured a bad batch in the last few months. x2 Quote
Saladmander Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I have had this problem in the past when I first started using braid. My friend who had just started using BC's has this problem from time to time also. He uses 30lb. PP. I don't think it has to do with the brand of line, but just something that I noticed is inherent with braid on a backlash. Mono, poly, or flouro will birds nest around spool and slow your lure down in the air. Braid will start to work it's way back around the spool the wrong way with a tighter grab on the spool and stop the lure dead in the air. If you're making a long cast, you'll put a little more into the cast. And if you lash with that kind of force, it'll just snap your line and send that sucker. That's my take on it anyway. I still lash from time to time if I try to toss it farther than I know I should. I lost a rattletrap last year like that. Quote
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