Super User .ghoti. Posted March 5, 2008 Super User Posted March 5, 2008 I didn't want hijack an earlier thread, so here goes. I've started greasing the brake race on all my Quantum PT's. The older PT's with the three position ACS have always been a lot quieter on the cast than the newer versions, which have nine settings. I started greasing the races to get rid of the noise. What I got was a reduction in that whirring sound on the cast, and a seemingly wider range of adjustment, on the newer models. Anybody else try this? Cheers, GK Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 5, 2008 Super User Posted March 5, 2008 Do you grease the brakes on your vehicle too? That makes as much sense as doing it with the reel brakes. Quote
Bob Kavanaugh Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Do you grease the brakes on your vehicle too? That makes as much sense as doing it with the reel brakes. They come from the factory that way. Also the newer Quantums don't have 9 settings, it's a cone that moves in and out, so it's actually infinite, although the clicker might only click that many times. Never counted. I do wish they'd re-design the knob to make it easier to make fine adjustments... Quote
Super User islandbass Posted March 5, 2008 Super User Posted March 5, 2008 Do you grease the brakes on your vehicle too? That makes as much sense as doing it with the reel brakes. One would think that too as I would. I learned that some reel makers like shimano recommend that the drum be oiled with the tip of the qtip to improve performance and reduce the whizzing sound. I never would have thought. Quote
Bob Kavanaugh Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 The stuff that comes on the Quantum drum is quite thick, so I clean it off and put on a lighter oil that's less likely to get gummy or gunked up. It doesn't take much to slow down a spool to keep it from backlashing, I'd think a dry system would stop the spool too fast, and wear out the plastic brakes prematurely. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 6, 2008 Super User Posted March 6, 2008 I guess I'm old school with that procedure. I do all I can to prevent any lubricant or even water to get on my reel brakes. Brake wear is not a concern, they can be replaced. If I need less braking when dry, I just turn some off. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 6, 2008 Super User Posted March 6, 2008 The stuff that comes on the Quantum drum is quite thick, so I clean it off and put on a lighter oil that's less likely to get gummy or gunked up.It doesn't take much to slow down a spool to keep it from backlashing, I'd think a dry system would stop the spool too fast, and wear out the plastic brakes prematurely. Actually those drums have heavy grease on them to hold parts in the assembly processes. Also the tabs are not plastic they are a nylon and it takes a butt load of spin to were them out. But your right it doesn't take much to slow a spool down when it is properly setup... Just my .02¢ Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted March 6, 2008 Author Super User Posted March 6, 2008 Do you grease the brakes on your vehicle too? That makes as much sense as doing it with the reel brakes. Yep, grease "em all is what I say. I put suspenders on my pet rattlesnake too. ;D ;D ;D Quote
strick9 Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Actually the new Quantum reels do have 9 brakes and each click of the adjustment knob moves the track they ride against in toward the spool more to engage one additional brake per click. With the old Quantum brake system each click of the knob engaged two brakes out of six. Quantum does recomend lightly oiling the track. Quote
Bob Kavanaugh Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Actually the new Quantum reels do have 9 brakes and each click of the adjustment knob moves the track they ride against in toward the spool more to engage one additional brake per click. With the old Quantum brake system each click of the knob engaged two brakes out of six. Quantum does recomend lightly oiling the track. 9 brakes, yes. 9 clicks, yes. 9 settings, no. It's not called Infinite ACS for nothing. Quote
Bob Kavanaugh Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 The stuff that comes on the Quantum drum is quite thick, so I clean it off and put on a lighter oil that's less likely to get gummy or gunked up.It doesn't take much to slow down a spool to keep it from backlashing, I'd think a dry system would stop the spool too fast, and wear out the plastic brakes prematurely. Actually those drums have heavy grease on them to hold parts in the assembly processes. Also the tabs are not plastic they are a nylon and it takes a butt load of spin to were them out. But your right it doesn't take much to slow a spool down when it is properly setup... Just my .02¢ Cool, thanks! Quote
strick9 Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Ok, I stand corrected. Can you please explain how you get an infinite amount of settings with 9 brakes and the track moves in only with each click of the adjustment knob which is 9 settings? This might be a good question for Reel Mech. Quote
Bob Kavanaugh Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Ok, I stand corrected. Can you please explain how you get an infinite amount of settings with 9 brakes and the track moves in only with each click of the adjustment knob which is 9 settings? This might be a good question for Reel Mech. The track is shaped like a cone. Every minute movement of the knob either makes the effective diameter of the track larger or smaller, depending on which way you turn the knob. One could also argue that there are an infinite amount of settings between each click. Are these differences that noticeable? Doubt it, but it's a fact, and makes for good marketing. Quote
strick9 Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Thanks Bob, that makes sence but I'll be darned if I can get that adjustment to stay in between clicks at all which is what you were trying to say in the beginning. Quote
Bob Kavanaugh Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Thanks Bob, that makes sence but I'll be darned if I can get that adjustment to stay in between clicks at all which is what you were trying to say in the beginning. ;D Yeah, that knob is something else. Quote
strick9 Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 That's ok, I still think it's an awesome reel even with only 9 adjsutments!!!! Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted March 6, 2008 Author Super User Posted March 6, 2008 Ok, I stand corrected. Can you please explain how you get an infinite amount of settings with 9 brakes and the track moves in only with each click of the adjustment knob which is 9 settings? You're right in the first place, you can't. The design would make infinite adjustment possible if they had just left out the detent. That knob is the only thing I don't like about these reels. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 7, 2008 Super User Posted March 7, 2008 ghoti, That knob is the only thing I don't like about these reels.Over tighten your drags, and then use braided line, and set the hook hard on a log, and see what else you'll dislike about the reel..... Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted March 7, 2008 Author Super User Posted March 7, 2008 ghoti,That knob is the only thing I don't like about these reels.Over tighten your drags, and then use braided line, and set the hook hard on a log, and see what else you'll dislike about the reel..... Care to elaborate? I don't use braid, and I don't over tighten the drag on any reel. But, I'm curious about your statement. Quote
Ballpark Frank Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 I think what ReelMech is talking about is an issue with the first version of the Accurists(and others with the IAR). From what I gather, the Anti-Reverse had serious issues. Quantum discontinued them and released the Accurist II version with improved IAR. I have not heard of any problems with the newer versions. Quote
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