Mike-in-WV Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 A friend of mine bought this Revo Premier awhile back and it sure is a nice reel but it has been acting up for the past few days. He was casting a 1/2 oz buzzbait about 130' using #15 test of some kind with no problems at all and birds nest were almost none existent. Now he gets them all the time and it doesn't matter where he sets the brakes. He changed line and still has the same problem. He tightened the spool brake down with the knob so that the lure would not fall at all. Then he tightened down the magnetic brake as far as it will go and he still gets bad backlash. Any suggestions before he sends it to Abu? He paid almost $200.00 for this reel tax and all. Mike Quote
Bass Pro Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 Sounds like the magnetic braking is not working. Has he tried opening the side plate to see if anything came apart? If everything looks normal then I'd send it back to Abu. Quote
Super User Micro Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 How do you cast a 1/2 oz lure 130 feet on 15# line? That just seems mighty far for relatively light lure. Wouldn't you really have to wing it to get it that far? Quote
Mike-in-WV Posted March 3, 2008 Author Posted March 3, 2008 How do you cast a 1/2 oz lure 130 feet on 15# line? That just seems mighty far for relatively light lure. Wouldn't you really have to wing it to get it that far? Your right, that is a good distance but this guy can do it. He is going to send it back. It's a great reel and he loves it but something is wrong for sure. He did check it out and could find nothing wrong but he didn't take it all the way down. He will leave that to the Abu Garcia staff Thanks guys, Mike Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 How do you cast a 1/2 oz lure 130 feet on 15# line? That just seems mighty far for relatively light lure. Wouldn't you really have to wing it to get it that far? Not only that, but a buzzbait?? Over 40 yds? I guess I shouldn't question something I've never tried to do but I cannot imagine throwing a 1/2 oz buzzbait over 40 yds. Heck, not even close. A rattle trap maybe but not a buzzer. Quote
Super User Micro Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 That's what I'm getting at. I guess it can be done, but I've never tried it. It just seems to me that you'd really have to flick it hard. My first thought is that the nature of the cast is the problem, not the reel. Quote
Mike-in-WV Posted March 3, 2008 Author Posted March 3, 2008 Wow guys! I'm kind of surprised that you can't believe a 1/2 oz lure can be casted 120' ! How many feet do you cast your 1/2 oz lures? This guy has been at this for years and started when there was nothing but bait casters. He makes it look easy to me but the best I can do consistently is 100' and thats with #17 Cajun Red casting. Quote
Mike-in-WV Posted March 3, 2008 Author Posted March 3, 2008 How do you cast a 1/2 oz lure 130 feet on 15# line? That just seems mighty far for relatively light lure. Wouldn't you really have to wing it to get it that far? Not only that, but a buzzbait?? Over 40 yds? I guess I shouldn't question something I've never tried to do but I cannot imagine throwing a 1/2 oz buzzbait over 40 yds. Heck, not even close. A rattle trap maybe but not a buzzer. Thats like asking what weighs more, a ton of feathers or a ton of Cole? The rod and reel has no idea what is on the line but a half oz. is a half oz. no matter how you cast it. All I know is what this guys is capable of and I have fished with him for many years. This has nothing to do with the problem with the reel. He just thought some of you may have had a problem with the same model and may know what to look for so he wanted me to ask you guys. Mike Quote
Super User burleytog Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 How do you cast a 1/2 oz lure 130 feet on 15# line? That just seems mighty far for relatively light lure. Wouldn't you really have to wing it to get it that far? Must be that light WV air. :-X The rod and reel has no idea what is on the line but a half oz. is a half oz. no matter how you cast it. No it isn't. A buzzbait offers a great deal of wind resistance while a trap is like a bullet. Quote
LakeAnnaBasser Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 Usually its not the reel causing the backlash its how the person casts it. Also traps do cast farther because they have internal weights that shift for a longer cast and a buzzbait has that big prop that the air catches so it really doesnt go as far. my .02 cents Quote
Mike-in-WV Posted March 3, 2008 Author Posted March 3, 2008 OK guys, thanks. I'll tell him that he should not cast his Buzz baits so far and that will solve his problem even thou he has been doing it for years with no problems. ;D Thanks for all your help, Mike Quote
Super User senile1 Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 In answer to your question I would get the reel checked out. It sounds like something is not quite right to me. If I have my brakes and control knob set correctly, I can put as much energy as I want behind a cast and not experience a backlash. Once in awhile, one might expect a slight overrun. I'm assuming he's not swinging the rod like a sledgehammer. Quote
Super User cart7t Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 .. It sounds like something is not quite right to me. ...) I'll say! ;D Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 OK guys, thanks. I'll tell him that he should not cast his Buzz baits so far and that will solve his problem even thou he has been doing it for years with no problems. ;D Thanks for all your help, Mike Mike-in-WV, 130' hummm 3' in a yard, that's only a little over 10 yrd. These guys need to go outside and cast a 1/2oz anything 10 yrd it's really not that far. You have a mechanical problem in the reel, I couldn't begin to try and say what it is without seeing the reel. I would get it replaced... Just my .02¢ Good Luck & Tight Lines..... Quote
Mike-in-WV Posted March 3, 2008 Author Posted March 3, 2008 OK guys, thanks. I'll tell him that he should not cast his Buzz baits so far and that will solve his problem even thou he has been doing it for years with no problems. ;D Thanks for all your help, Mike Mike-in-WV, 130' hummm 3' in a yard, that's only a little over 10 yrd. These guys need to go outside and cast a 1/2oz anything 10 yrd it's really not that far. You have a mechanical problem in the reel, I couldn't begin to try and say what it is without seeing the reel. I would get it replaced... Just my .02¢ Good Luck & Tight Lines..... He's sending to Abu this morning.The reel is definitely messed up because it acts as if it's free spooling no matter how tight he sets the brakes. Not trying to correct you here but 10 yards is 30' , not 130' . 3x10=30. He is really good and everyone around here knows it. As long as there is no breeze or wind he is really accurate also. Thanks again for your time and suggestions, mike Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 OK guys, thanks. I'll tell him that he should not cast his Buzz baits so far and that will solve his problem even thou he has been doing it for years with no problems. ;D Thanks for all your help, Mike Mike-in-WV, 130' hummm 3' in a yard, that's only a little over 10 yrd. These guys need to go outside and cast a 1/2oz anything 10 yrd it's really not that far. You have a mechanical problem in the reel, I couldn't begin to try and say what it is without seeing the reel. I would get it replaced... Just my .02¢ Good Luck & Tight Lines..... Wouldn't it be more like 43 yards ? Quote
Super User Raul Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 Wow guys! I'm kind of surprised that you can't believe a 1/2 oz lure can be casted 120' ! Mike, buzzbaits, spinnerbaits, jerkbaits cast like crap. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 Wow guys! I'm kind of surprised that you can't believe a 1/2 oz lure can be casted 120' ! Mike, buzzbaits, spinnerbaits, jerkbaits cast like crap. That dude is a better man than I am. Quote
Mike-in-WV Posted March 3, 2008 Author Posted March 3, 2008 They cast like crap??? I have never had a problem casting Buzzbaits or spinners. Unless they were really light weight spinners. 1/2 oz anything is not exactly light to me. The rod has everything to do with it and not just the reel or the guy doing the casting. Some people like to ride the spool with there thumb instead of just finessing it and some people like to lob the lure high in the air instead of snapping the wrest and following through with the arm and rod tip right to the intended target. Bottom line is that no one cast the same lure the same way so results will not be the same. I have watched pros cast a light weight lure a good ways out there with just the snap of the wrist and following through and I have seen some guys cast like they are throwing a hey maker at someone and it plops down 20' in front of them. Mike Quote
Super User flechero Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 1/2 oz is a lot of weight. Casting has a lot of variables.... but a 1/2 oz. buzzbait can be casted pretty far. I use an old 4600 on my buzzbait rod but it will cast a 1/2 lunker lure buzzbait 40 yds with 15# mono. (not that it's needed very often but it does it.) To the original poster- the reel should be sent for service or returned, something is definitely wrong. Quote
Hillbilly_Hooker Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 If your friend hasn't yet sent the reels back to Abu-Garcia, he might want to find a shop locally to clean and lube the reels for him. As odd as it might sound, I had two Bass Pro Shop reels that we causing me very similar problems. I had them cleaned and lubed professionally, and I haven't had a problem since. Hillbilly Quote
Mike-in-WV Posted March 3, 2008 Author Posted March 3, 2008 Thanks guys but he sent it back to Abu this morning. The reel is fairly new . He has checked it out as well as he can ands can't find out why it's just not braking right. Someone mentioned it may be the magnets causing the problem. We will see when we hear from Abu Garcia I will post what they find about the reel. Thanks again, Mike Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 3, 2008 Super User Posted March 3, 2008 my mistake it is 40+yrds Good for him, Garcia will take care of it no prob's.... Quote
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