Best quickest knot(s)?

[TheBeast]

Been using the Palomar exclusively since I first started using braid.  Never heard of the SD jam but am intrigued now will have to check it out.

[roadwarrior]

Been using the Palomar exclusively since I first started using braid. Never heard of the SD jam but am intrigued now will have to check it out.

It's fun to tie. I use it sometimes with heavier line:

http://www.netknots.com/html/sd_jam.html

8-)

[TheBeast]

That's just a variance on the Uni and Improved Clinch.

[roadwarrior]

That's just a variance on the Uni and Improved Clinch.

If you closely examine most knots, many are VERY similar! Uni, Trilene,

Improved Clinch and San Diego Jam are all good examples.

The fundamental difference with the San Diego Knot is that the line

is wrapped on the outside of the main lines and effectively creates a

noose. This is a very "pretty" knot when tied properly.

8-)

[TheBeast]

At least it ain't the San Francisco jam, that would be getting into Burley Walnuts territory there.  ;D

[Andrew Coleman]

i tie the improvved clinch on pretty much eveerything, but i guess i gotta get to learining the Mighty Palomer Knot eh?

[grimlin]

I just learned myself a new knot.   If for some reason palomar fails me,SD jam will be taking over.

*goes to practice some more.*

[Tokyo Tony]

I like the Uni for most everything, Palomar for braid and downshotting, and sometimes I'll tie the "Ball buster" which is identical to the Uni but you thread the line through the eye twice before tying.

[dodgeguy]

imho the palomar is the quickest most reliable knot around..

[RoLo]

If you closely examine most knots, many are VERY similar! Uni, Trilene,

Improved Clinch and San Diego Jam are all good examples.

The fundamental difference with the San Diego Knot is that the line

is wrapped on the outside of the main lines and effectively creates a

noose. This is a very "pretty" knot when tied properly.

Actually that's a very important observation!

I've watched the palomar knot blossom in popularity, then I watched it fade into relative obscurity (NG with trebled plugs).

Low-&-behold a Super Line manufacturer included instructions for tying the palomar knot and BAM, it rocketed back to stardom (very strange).

When I began fishing (before there were fossils), I like everyone else used a clinch knot (you guessed it...it was on the Trilene box).

I finally retired the clinch knot after losing countless fish and ending up with nothing but a line-end that resembled a pig's tail.

After I dumped the clinch knot they introduced the "improved clinch knot". Too little, too late, I already had my belly full of clinch knots.

For several decades now I've been using nothing but the "uni-knot" for everything including braided line (hence the name "Universal").

It can be tied with your eyes closed, and the next time a uni-knot slips with braided line will be my first time.

Roger

[senile1]

The palomar is obviously the quickest knot to tie and is very strong for some applications.  I have had the best success using the uni knot with braid.  

There was another thread about knot strength that was started by Roadwarrior a few days ago.  There was some surpising info on some of the links.  

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1201877669

I think sometimes much of the difference in knot strength relates to individual idiosynchracies in tying the same knot.  Also, according to some tests the brand of line made a significant difference.  In a link I posted on the thread above the testing for the palomar ranged from 43% breaking strength to over 100% depending on the brand of mono line used.  For braids, the breaking strength for the palomar was only 43% to around 72%.  It didn't even approach 100 % with any of the lines tested.  

[RoLo]

For braids, the breaking strength for the palomar was only 43% to around 72%.

In a knot test using fluorocarbon line, the common knots fared quite poorly as well:

Palomar Knot 72%

Uni-Knot 69%

Trilene Knot 67%

With regard to braided line though, knot strength is much less critical, because due to its fine diameter,

most braid users are over-tackled (myself included), in addition most braided lines overtest (getting braid to break is the bigger problem).

Many years ago I conducted my own little knot study, and I strongly suggest that each of you do the same.

There's no better way to erase any doubts, and the results will be quite enlightening.

I used two giant tuna hooks (heavy wire hooks that served as handles).

To compare any two knots, I tied one knot to the eyelet of one tuna hook and the other end of the same short length of line to the other tuna hook.

Then I pulled both tuna hooks apart until one of the knots failed. I repeated this test several times

until I was convinced of as to which knot was stronger. As it happened, this inspired me to devise my own knot.

Although the rolo knot proved to be stronger than all others, I use the uni-knot because it's so much easier to tie ;D

Roger

[sigep1967]

ChecK out the centauri knot been tying it for about 15 years with no problems.  I do it a little different than the pic you will find and it is the easiest strongest knot I have tried. Run the line through the eyelet of the lure about 12-16" holding the lure in your hand place your thumb and forefinger just in fron tof the eylet. With both the tag and main line inbetween them. Wrap the line around your fingers 3 times and then back through the opening between your fingers pull your fingers out wet and cinch. I put this on a knot machine at the classic one year and the guy there from trilene i think was amazed at the strength of it.

[HesterIsGod]

Another vote for palomer.

Of course another option is if you want to change lures in a hurry, like a different one every few casts, use a small snap swivel. they dont hurt the action of certain lures, like crankbaits.

[Mike-in-WV]

polomar or Double surgeon's loop , depending on what I'm tying for.

[Tokyo Tony]

I've actually had the Uni knot slip a couple times with braid, so I don't use it with braid anymore.  According to tests I watched, Palomar is the best for braid - it won't slip.  And if you think about the mechanics of the knot, it makes sense that it won't slip.

[Bankbeater]

palomar or an improved clinch knot.

[Alpster]

I have rheumatoid arthritis and my hands look like a tangled mess. The palomar knot is the best thing that's happened to my fishing in years. The improved clinch knot that I used for decades is hard for me to tie. I buried a hook in my lip using my teeth to tie on a worm hook. LOL

The title of this thread is best QUICKEST knot. The palomar is not only stronger with most lines, it is very easy and QUICK to tie. JMHE

Ronnie

[Red]

i go for the polomar too...except for on spinnerbaits and buzzbaits