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If you want distance & accuracy invest in a quality rod; all those bearings & stuff is just faking yourself out.

I have invested in "quality" rods in the past and they don't do $#*t.

I use a Calcutta 100A with the stock bearing that came in it and I'll challenge you to a competition of distance & accuracy anytime anywhere.

YES! You sound alot like "Tommy 'gun'" from Rocky 5, dude. lol

I don't get what you're trying to say. In response to your post in which you said to invest in a quality rod, I said that the rod, imo, doesn't matter if I have a pricey rod opposed to say a $50 BPS rod w/ the same action. I think that it depends more on the reel than anything else. Then you go on to mention your Calcutta, which I'm sure is a great reel for casting. So in essence, you're in agreement w/ me about the reel being the main factor in casting. I've yet to see what kind of impact changing the bearings would do to a reel, so I can't really give an opinion about that.

I didn't mean to offend you or anything, sorry if it came out that way.

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Worst I've had was a Quantum Accurist followed closely by a Shimano Cruxis.  

Best distance came from a Abu Garcia Revo SX, but it was always on the verge of disaster no matter how tight I cranked it down.   That reel lasted a couple of days before something broke in it and it started grinding when cranked.

I don't think I get as much distance with my Zillion and Fuego as I did witht the Revo, but I trust them to work correctly all the time.  I've never tested them against each other because I use them for different applications.  A Steez and a 153HSTA were added this year, so I'll let you know when I use them.

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A reel does not cast your bait your rod does  ;)

Look at the world record of 114.67 meter (115 yds.) with an 18 gram bait which is right at 5/8 of an ounce with an Abu Garcia 2500C reel, not exactly what you would call a high tech reel.

Look at a fly fishing setup; the reel do absolutely nothing but hold line yet the angler can obtain both distance and accuracy.

Why? Because of the rod!

I get the greatest distance out of the right rod and a well maintained reel.

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I'll agree that the rod does the work and a greater change in distance will come with rod changes, but reels do affect the distance.  

Take a 12 foot world record thrower rod and put any reel on it.  Crank the brakes as tight as they will go and see how far you can toss anything.

My buddy that's a (custodial) engineer would probably come up with an equation for the situation.  Something like this

     

RS>LS=  ;)   oops.  That's a mess!

RS<LS=  :-[   that didn' go very far

RS= Reel spool speed

LS= Lure speed

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A reel does not cast your bait your rod does ;)

Nope. And you're logic behind the fly rod theory is wrong. Fly fishing gear requires heavier LINE, which actually casts the bait. Read the post above this one, it's actually pretty good.

If you refuse to answer the original question, please don't post. I just asked a simple question, I have absolutely no idea why ppl feel that they need to "school" me about what does what. I'm sure other ppl would like to hear opinions of the casting ability of reels.

Thanks guys for the info, seems like I gotta get my hands on a Pixy sometime!

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Best distance came from a Abu Garcia Revo SX, but it was always on the verge of disaster no matter how tight I cranked it down. That reel lasted a couple of days before something broke in it and it started grinding when cranked.

I don't think I get as much distance with my Zillion and Fuego as I did witht the Revo, but I trust them to work correctly all the time. I've never tested them against each other because I use them for different applications. A Steez and a 153HSTA were added this year, so I'll let you know when I use them.

Oh man that is so disheartening! I'm actually planning on picking up that SX w/ an allstar rod to go w/ it to get the rebate. Maybe I'll get a good one since it seems like you got a lemon.

Oh, and I'll be anxiously awaiting the review of the 153HSTA!!

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Oh man that is so disheartening! I'm actually planning on picking up that SX w/ an allstar rod to go w/ it to get the rebate. Maybe I'll get a good one since it seems like you got a lemon.

I use an SX on my Team All Star 6'6' and 6'8" MHs.  They go together like peas and carrots.   Great combo and casts like a dream.

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A reel does not cast your bait your rod does  ;)

Nope. And you're logic behind the fly rod theory is wrong. Fly fishing gear requires heavier LINE, which actually casts the bait. Read the post above this one, it's actually pretty good.

If you refuse to answer the original question, please don't post. I just asked a simple question, I have absolutely no idea why ppl feel that they need to "school" me about what does what. I'm sure other ppl would like to hear opinions of the casting ability of reels.

Thanks guys for the info, seems like I gotta get my hands on a Pixy sometime!

You seem to know it all, why bother asking questions?

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Raul's point was that any baitcaster can launch medium to heavy lures, lighter baits are more challenging. My reels probably vary a lot with regard to "absolute capability", but from a practical standpoint they are about the same. There is rarely (never) a need for a cast over 50 yards if you are actually "fishing".

Ditto

I have never felt the need to cast a senko more than 15 yards.

8-)

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A reel does not cast your bait your rod does ;)

Nope. And you're logic behind the fly rod theory is wrong. Fly fishing gear requires heavier LINE, which actually casts the bait. Read the post above this one, it's actually pretty good.

If you refuse to answer the original question, please don't post. I just asked a simple question, I have absolutely no idea why ppl feel that they need to "school" me about what does what. I'm sure other ppl would like to hear opinions of the casting ability of reels.

Thanks guys for the info, seems like I gotta get my hands on a Pixy sometime!

You seem to know it all, why bother asking questions?

I ask questions because I acknowledge the fact that I don't "know it all". That was a great ASSumption from you though.

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Raul's point was that any baitcaster can launch medium to heavy lures, lighter baits are more challenging. My reels probably vary a lot with regard to "absolute capability", but from a practical standpoint they are about the same. There is rarely (never) a need for a cast over 50 yards if you are actually "fishing".

Ditto

I have never felt the need to cast a senko more than 15 yards.

8-)

I already replied to his post w/ a logical answer. I really don't know what else to say but, READ the thread before you post?

This thread is really dying a slow and painful death.....kinda makes me disappointed about what this forum is becoming ;)

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I'm obviously not is intelligent as you but I believe the reason for the weighed fly line is due to the fact that the lures weighs are about a gram or 2 but then again you already know this.

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Revo SX on a Quantum Tour Edition 7' M. casts like a dream.

Falcon

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muddy man,

It's seems that it is not how far you can throw em but where you throw em thats important.
Oh man, no truer words were ever posted......
This thread is really dying a slow and painful death.....kinda makes me disappointed about what this forum is becoming
Then the mods need to lock this sucker up. I thought this thread was a loaded question when first posted that could bring out argumentative natures, it did....

JMPO

Tight Lines!!!  

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Yup, done, locked.

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